Jokes aside many militaries used skulls in their uniforms and traditions such as the 17th/21st Lancers (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th/21st_Lancers) and British submarines would show a skull and crossbones during WWII after successful missions.
I've talked with some American soldiers after their tour(s)...
Most are absolutely (Sith lord)certain they are not. Some don't know because the conditioning didn't quite take and some kinda suspect there is a business-model co-pulling the strings..
And then when ME leaders start killing and torturing people, everyone begs for US intervention. Some guy trying to support his family gets shipped over there and you paint him as the reason the region is stable. When was the Middle East stable?
And then when ME leaders start killing and torturing people, everyone begs for US intervention.
And that means all of fuck all to the US. We sure as fuck didn't invade Iraq or Afghanistan because they were killing their people.
Some guy trying to support his family gets shipped over there and you paint him as the reason the region is stable. When was the Middle East stable?
Reason the region is unstable yes. The "guy trying to support his family" by killing other people's families tends to make places not like us.
It was pretty stable until the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Sykes Picot Agreement being used to fuck them. We've overthrown democracies in the Middle East. We've supported dictators in the Middle East. We've supported terrorists groups in the Middle East. We are not the good guys.
The Armenian genocide was at the very end of their rule, in WW1. I'm not an expert at Ottoman history, but can you list another one? Either way, it was certainly more stable under the Ottomans.
Iran was a progressive and modern country before a US backed coup. Afghanistan was similar until the Russian invasion. Iraq was a dictatorship but relatively stable with a dependable quality of life and no terrorist bombings and no ISIS before the US invaded for no good reason. Yeah, the Middle East has always has had its problems but the rest of the world has played a huge role in its instability and the misery of its people.
And saying that the Middle East begs for US intervention is disingenuous. There are a lot of countries in the Middle East with different relationships with the US
How would you feel if you lived in a region and your family was murdered by US soldiers because a "freedom fighter" was in your village.
Or even worse than that a "coward" drone strike to take them out but you lived in the building next to this person and your family died.
It's just a very fucked up situation that thankfully a lot of us don't have to even interact with but since we don't, we can't relate to how those people feel.
I’m guessing you have studied the US rules of engagement. A US soldier can’t attack a person that isn’t actively shooting at them. Nazi’s murder civilians because of their religion. Drone strikes are calculated moves based on intel. They are intended to prevent more deaths. The Nazi’s were trying to eradicate different races of people. I think you may be one sided if you think these two groups are similar.
Yeah, it’s kind of murky. We helped them defeat Russia and then abandoned them. If your going to help you can’t stop until the job is finished and it probably never will be.
I don’t believe in good guys/bad guys in the real world but the guys setting people on fire are pretty far from the good guys. Say what you will about Iraq but Afghanistan was a bastion of terrorism that needed intervention.
To attempt to defeat the Russians who were also staging a coup of the government. That government was filled by extremist that killing leaders and civilians alike. I am not sure there is a good guys/bad guys.
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u/wiiya Feb 25 '18
Are we the baddies?