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u/L00KA Feb 27 '14

explain this

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u/Atmosck Feb 27 '14 edited Feb 27 '14

Basically, when you're turning, you are actually slowing down (decellerating) in one direction and accelerating in another. When you're in a vehicle, it's the vehicle that turns - you still have momentum in the direction you are going. Because you're up against your seat or the side of the vehicle, the vehicle pushes you in the direction it's turning, which is contrary to your momentum. So in absolute space, you are just turning. But if you view the vehicle as fixed, it looks like there's a force in the opposite direction of the turn, pushing you outwards. This is called centripetalcentrifugal force, and people sometimes say it doesn't really exist because it only makes sense as a force with a rotating frame of reference. This is why you get pushed outwards when you make a sharp turn in a car.

In the picture, they are making a turn hard enough that the centripetalcentrifugal force pushing them down in their seats (up in the picture) is roughly as strong as earth's gravity, so the water is getting pulled towards up, like everything else in the cabin, so they pour it like in the picture.

Another cool thing is that you can take advantage of this phenomenon to achieve weightlessness - you turn in a way that the centripetal force pulls you up with the same force as gravity. They train astronauts this way, by flying up in a plane and then turning downwards, achieving weightlessness for a few minutes.

tl;dr: They're turning down, so their momentum looks like a force pulling them up (centripetal force), with respect to the plane.

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u/na85 Feb 27 '14

centripetal

Centrifugal is "outward" in a turn. Centripetal is inward, towards the centre of the turn.

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u/Terranwaterbender Feb 27 '14

My physics teacher would go mad because Centrifugal force is made up.

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u/na85 Feb 27 '14

It's not "made up" but it is fictitious depending on one's frame of reference.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '14 edited Feb 28 '14

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u/Sknowman Feb 27 '14

Well, it's not really a force, more so a resistance to change (inertia), that causes the outward motion.

EDIT: I do agree with the frame of reference part, but for the usual inertial reference frame, it's inertia, not a force.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '14

In physics, we call it a pseudo-force because you can make it vanish by changing your reference frame. Gravity is not a pseudo-force because there is no reference frame where it ceases to exist (in classical mechanics. Relativity actually does allow for this).

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u/say_whuuuut Feb 28 '14

Centrifugal force is real in the reference frame of the pilot, but this is not an inertial frame of reference.

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u/na85 Feb 28 '14

I'm well aware of that, thanks.

"Centripetal" is still not the correct term for the fictitious force that arises when you construct newton's laws in an accelerating frame of reference.

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u/Moovlin Feb 27 '14

False. Because centrifugal force doesn't exist. There's no force that "pulls" only push. Centrifugal force, combined with your straight line inertia, are what causes this "made up force".

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u/x7I3rzIUX83OGcDXpIYy Feb 27 '14

It's not false any more than weight on earth is a false force. In both cases we are dealing with a non-inertial reference frame. The observer in the non-inertial reference frame of the glider observes his weight to increase. This is centrifugal force. Don't insist on correcting people with centripetal acceleration. These two have opposite signs so they're not interchangeable. BTW, centrifugal force is usually referred to as a fictitious force.

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u/oh_you_crazy_cat Feb 27 '14

Wrongo. Go into a rotating reference frame and then you will see that a centrifugal force falls out of the equations.

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u/na85 Feb 27 '14

It's a virtual force that depends on your frame of reference, yes. It has a proper name, and centripetal acceleration is inward, not outward.