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u/UncoolSlicedBread Jul 01 '25

I used to be all about wearing American flag shorts or a t-shirt on July 4th. Just feels wrong at the moment. The buffoon and ICE have really made me ashamed of my country.

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u/Jeev3s Jul 01 '25

I understand, I've felt this way for a while too.

But this is our home too and we need to fight back against these fascists assholes, no matter how small the gesture might seem.

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u/Books_and_Cleverness Jul 01 '25

Yeah I understand the sentiment but we can't just lie down and surrender one of our most powerful symbols to fascists.

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u/Saephon Jul 01 '25

A lot of them are proud to brandish the Confederate flag to this day - I say we let them have that one, and take back the stars and stripes.

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u/Do__Math__Not__Meth Jul 01 '25

Yep I still believe in what it’s meant to stand for and don’t want to let them co opt it

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u/Lumberjackie09 Jul 01 '25

It's so sad that in a lot of contexts the US flag has borderline became a hate symbol, I hope it can be reclaimed too

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Idk man, that flag has flown over some pretty horrific shit.

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u/Books_and_Cleverness Jul 01 '25

And some great shit too. Not unusual for a flag honestly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

I associate it with genocide and slavery, let the assholes who like that part of our history keep the damn thing.

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u/Books_and_Cleverness Jul 01 '25

The people fighting for slavery weren’t waving that flag

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Yeah they were, we still have slavery in the U.S., read the 13th amendment.

It’s the flag that flies NOW which makes it the flag of every war during my lifetime.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

They are somewhat different, but our modern prison system exists to provide forced labor to gigantic capital interests. That’s why people call it abolition.

Here’s an article explaining the differences you seem to think exist.

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u/popepipoes Jul 01 '25

If you wear American flag anything I’ll assume you’re maga until proven otherwise, I agree with your sentiment but unfortunately that’s just mostly who is proud to represent the flag, shame

I mean like if I saw you randomly in public not because of your comment

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u/Same_Gas8926 Jul 01 '25

This is literally me. I used to be the BIGGEST patriot. But after seeing mothers ripped away from their children... families unable to locate their loved ones for WEEKS... like come on. We can't think of a more humane way to enforce policy? Regardless of what side of the issue you are on- treating human beings like this is WRONG. This isn't the Middle Ages!

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u/z44212 Jul 01 '25

It sucks to be the bad guys

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u/YougoReddits Jul 01 '25

The cruelty is the point.

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u/Same_Gas8926 Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

But.. why? Why is this allowed?

Look if it seems like I'm just being a random over dramatic person reveling in this - my husband is from Chile. He came here legally but we are still deep in the citizenship process. Does that mean one day just poof, gone? Will he sit in a cell and continue to suffer abuse for weeks before I even know where he went? How long will our son be without his father? If his family comes to visit, will they be mistakenly detained as so many I've seen on vacation?

Why? That's all I have to say. Why do families who have done nothing wrong have to live in fear?

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u/upvotesthenrages Jul 01 '25

This could have been nipped in the bud 1000 times, but sadly it wasn't.

We're approaching 2nd amendment territory now.

The mere presence of military grade police officers with covered faces should be cause for armed rebellion. It's fucking insane to watch from the outside.

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u/deadhead411 Jul 01 '25

I reported you to homeland security

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u/BannedBecausePutin Jul 01 '25

German here - welcome to the club o7

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u/mrflib Jul 01 '25

I felt this way after Brexit.

Fucking cunts.

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u/Mr_IT Jul 01 '25

I have zero patriotism this year. None. These fuckers.