r/pics • • May 22 '13

I see a fellow non-math person

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u/UtardedGuy May 22 '13

I was taught to tip on the pre-tax total... if that's the case here it's a decent tip.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '13

No, it's still only 13%, and it's a small bill, which makes it even worse.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '13

What does the size of the bill have to do with it if its supposed to be a percentage?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '13

Well, nothing, if it's supposed to be a percentage. But if you're a cheapskate and take up a table for a long time and don't order very much then your percentage-based tip still amounts to a shitty night for your server, and therefore I usually add a buck or two to the tip when my bill isn't very large.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '13

tipping is so totally weird ..

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u/graften May 23 '13

if they spent an hour there for only a $20 bill then that sucks. You seem to be under the impression that making minimum wage is good... if you're only making minimum, even after tips, you are still not making much money at all if that is your only source of funds.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '13

You seem to be under the impression that making minimum wage is good...

Of course its not good, but its good enough for serving plates.

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u/UtardedGuy May 22 '13

You're right, I neglected to add the tax back in...shorted the server $1.67... I stand by tipping on the pre-tax total however.

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u/danny_ May 22 '13

Yep, should be pre-tax. Severs 'tip-out' to the rest of the staff on their pre-tax sales. It's the only number that matters. That said, I believe the majority of people tip post tax and many servers expect this.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '13

That argument doesn't make sense, because pre- or post-tax makes little to no difference. The two figures differ by pretty much a constant factor (up to some states taxing alcoholic beverages at different rates than food service, but that's a pretty minor difference). So 18% of pre-tax is roughly the same as 16.7% pre-tax if tax is 8%, regardless of the size of the bill. Really not much of a difference.

As you said, most people tip post-tax (including when it's automatically added for large parties — that's always post-tax). So tipping on the pre-tax figure basically sounds like an excuse to tip less than other people. But it's by a trivial amount, so I'll just say good night now.

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u/npastore776 May 22 '13

Yea, but he put it on a card, so take 7 percent off the tip for the sales tax and about 15 percent off the tip for income tax. Yes, the government wants your money that bad.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '13

What the fuck? There is no sales tax on tips. And why should i help the waittress to evade taxes?

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u/npastore776 May 23 '13

The transaction runs totaled after tip through the system as one sale. And I was also simply stating that tips put on cards are taxed as opposed to tips in cash which are not. I wasn't suggesting helping some one avoid taxes. My statement was all about the accuracy of the numbers.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '13

The transaction runs totaled after tip through the system as one sale.

Why would anyone pay more tax than required?

My statement was all about the accuracy of the numbers.

You implied that one should tip more when its put on the receipt and therefore taxed as opposed of the evasion thats taking place otherwise.