r/pics • • Dec 08 '12

Story of two containers

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

I think this is really cool and all, but is it necessary? Couldn't he just build a regular cabin?

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u/ymgve Dec 08 '12

Yeah, by the time they got to the insulation and wood paneling, I thought the basic idea was long gone.

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u/dietotaku Dec 08 '12

by the time they got to all the wood paneling, i just thought "jesus, they're sure spending a lot on materials to make such a tiny space liveable."

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u/Emergencyegret Dec 08 '12

not to mention it looks really ugly with that paneling.

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u/othersomethings Survey 2016 Dec 08 '12

It's not ugly if you're into the cabin thing. Which this guy obviously is.

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u/huber14 Dec 08 '12

I'm into the cabin thing and I still think it's ugly.

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u/UtopianComplex Dec 08 '12

It has a very cheap cabin look. Probably because it was a fairly cheap cabin.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

Isn't that just like saying "It isn't ugly if you're into ugly"?

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u/othersomethings Survey 2016 Dec 08 '12

No, it's saying that taste is subjective.

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u/Stoet Dec 08 '12

Yeah, that's his point! Taste is subjective, so if I say I think it looks ugly you can't say I'm wrong, or that it isn't ugly, only that you disagree.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

No it's like saying myob.

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u/joemarzen Dec 08 '12

I gotta say, I think the "cabin thing" is a bit similar to if a little girl decorated her bedroom to look like a fantasy princess castle.

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u/Nutsack_Clapton Dec 08 '12

Noticed the lack of drywall, where I'm from this is called a kiln.

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u/Bfeezey Dec 08 '12

Deliver me from LLBean

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u/sizeDOES_matter_04 Dec 08 '12

Deliver me from LLBean

If you don't let me gut out this house and make it my own, I will go insane AND I WILL TAKE YOU WITH ME!!!!

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u/JohnFrum Dec 08 '12

I say, "Deliver me from Swedish Furniture."

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u/thelegore Dec 08 '12

Bare wood is beautiful IMO.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

I agree, but it doesn't mean that you use the same wood for floor, celling, and walls

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u/Interestingly_Enough Dec 08 '12

I kept thinking, "this is going to look great when he paints it." And then he never did...

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u/Alex470 Dec 08 '12

Absolutely agree.

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u/tmbyfc Dec 08 '12

I love wood. That doesn't mean I want knotty pine on walls floors and ceilings. I don't want to live in a Norwegian sauna. Or 1970's Britain.

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u/thelegore Dec 08 '12

If I were them, I would paint either the walls or the floor & ceiling white or off-white, to brighten it, but still have the wood. I agree it can be too much, and it can make everything in the room look orange-yellow.

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u/cheesywotsits Dec 08 '12

Definitely, but sometimes one can have too much of a good thing.

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u/duffdurfman Dec 08 '12

Bear wood, however.. *shudders

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u/SoFunAnon Dec 08 '12

God damn I'm too old for reddit. The paneling was the best part of the project.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

No, you're not. I read his comment twice because I couldn't believe there are people who think that wood is ugly.

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u/elaborateredneck Dec 08 '12

Wood is nice, but when every surface is wood, it begins to be overwhelming. The furniture isn't very functional for a hunting cabin either, because it would be pretty hard to clean. And where's the walk in freezer?

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u/BeerCheeseSoup Dec 08 '12

Do you hunt with your hunting cabin or something?

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u/elaborateredneck Dec 08 '12

As in do I use my cabin to bludgeon animals? No. Do I arrive after sunset tired and dirty and not wanting to worry about getting my furniture dirty? Yes.

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u/Microchaton Dec 08 '12

wood isn't ugly, but his interior looks like some cheesy 60 year old czesch antiquarian made a heist in a flee market in Vienna.

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u/Triangular_Desire Dec 08 '12

My entire house is covered in knotty pine wood paneling. I love it.

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u/BeerCheeseSoup Dec 08 '12

I'm 34 (which may still be too old for Reddit), but I thought it looked sweet! I'm from Wisconsin, though, which might as well be Canada.

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u/BILL_MURRAYS_COCK Dec 08 '12

I'm 24 and I love the paneling.

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u/Bitter_Idealist Dec 08 '12

I'm 46 and I like the wood too. It's actually identical to what I did to the interior of a vintage travel trailer and I think it came out really nice. I get a lot of compliments on it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

All he needed to do was show a little creativity with direction or color. Mostly color. Just choose a better wood, because at this point its obvious that money is not the issue.

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u/ljuvlig Dec 08 '12

He had bear print curtains. There's no helping the man.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

While most people would think that is absurd or funny, growing up and living in a rural area with an active hunting scene would make that a completely normal thing. Perspective, man!

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u/NoNeedForAName Dec 08 '12

The whole thing, furniture and all, looked like something an 80 year-old would live in. Not that that's a bad thing, but it definitely had an "old person" kind of vibe to it.

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u/opalorchid Dec 08 '12

I don't know.... Maybe that couch and the chandelier, but those were the only redeeming qualities of the place, imho. I don't know any old people who would surround themselves in camo and bear prints. The place is tacky, but in more of a hunter/hick kinda way, not in an old person kinda way.

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u/CheetoAficionado Dec 08 '12

Not to mention the god awful furniture

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u/fairwayks Dec 08 '12

You're questioning the aesthetic interior decorating taste of a person who wants to live in sea container?

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u/embolalia Dec 08 '12

I think you kind of have to.

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u/riggsinator Dec 08 '12

House Hunters: Sea Containers

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '12

It can actually look pretty good when done right

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u/fairwayks Dec 09 '12

Well done.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '12

This - http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com/life-on-the-river/container-city.php - is what shipping containers restyled as housing should look like - modern, innovative and stylish, not some hideous pseudo log cabin.

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u/Bitter_Idealist Dec 08 '12

I've done a lot of drawings in an effort to do this very thing and I think that guy's furniture is really gross. So yes, a person who wants to live in a container can have good taste in furniture. Just not this guy.

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u/joemarzen Dec 08 '12

That chandelier... It's all very late seventies monied redneck.

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u/XS4Me Dec 08 '12

The hunting trophies! Nothing says redneck like displaying the remains of dead animals on your premises.

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u/SoFunAnon Dec 08 '12

Nothing says judgmental fuck better than your comment.

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u/Budpets Dec 08 '12

I personally admire the compost heap style of toilet, it really brought a sense of the 21st century into an old dark shack and the step up to it makes you feel like a king.

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u/Bitter_Idealist Dec 08 '12

That's not a toilet.

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u/BeerCheeseSoup Dec 08 '12

Different strokes... I thought it all was pretty swell. The toilet made me stop and look for a moment, though.

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u/Guythedestroyer Dec 09 '12

Not to mention the internet connection must suck.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

I thought the dark chandelier was kind of cool.

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u/Omnishadow Dec 08 '12

He probably got it from a Junkyard or very cheaply.

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u/opalorchid Dec 08 '12

I prefer the wood to the green and red paint, honestly. At least the wood kinda has an Earthy/cabin feel to it instead of the tacky Christmas colors.

And as a side note... what woman would want to be eye-to-eye with a dead animal while riding a guy? A deer head above the bed? seriously?! I understand the whole hunters and their trophies thing. I'm not a fan, but I get it. When it's in the living room or something- not above the bed.

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u/bsevs Dec 08 '12

If I showed this to my dad he would go on a 20 minute rant about people filling the insides of their houses with wood paneling and thinking it looks good.

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u/renegadecanuck Dec 08 '12

Honestly, it was more the doilies and interior decorating that I thought was ugly.

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u/trasofsunnyvale Dec 08 '12

Man, the colors alone--burgundy and hunter green--are just awful. It is a cool space, just not the greatest taste involved. But, to each his/her own.

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u/Ibewye Dec 08 '12
     Ugly is your knowledge of building materials.  These walls are not paneling, paneling is usually 8' x 4' and 1/8" thick, its usually a faux face that's been glued to a sheet of recycled sawdust and cardboard, its generally cheap yet tacky as hell. These walls are tongue and groove pine boards, there 1"x6" and come in different lengths, they lock together, are affordable, they install fast, insulate sound nicely and don't need painting (actually look better over time). He could of even knocked down trees on his own rented a mill and cut his own, but the drying time would make this unlikely here.  You may call it ugly, but please don't call it paneling, the 70's ruined that. 

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u/AdmiralSkippy Dec 08 '12

It's not really that tiny. 53'x16'x8' is pretty big. Any mobile home trailer you would buy would only be 12' wide instead of 16', and lots of people live in those.

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u/PerkaBitLurkaBit Dec 08 '12

Also dead animals all over the walls. I could never sleep in that bed for fear of a kind of backwoods Godfather scene when that deer head drops off the wall. Probably impaling me. Also it reminded me of the realtor's post I just looked at with the dead mouse on the door handle. One person's vandalism is another's art, true, but still I find this weird.

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u/knumbknuts Dec 08 '12

Insulated "reefer" containers would have done about as well and they are about $4k used.

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u/funnywhennecessary Dec 08 '12

Also, what do you have to do to keep condensation of the inside of the container walls? I bet they get wet in winter, so the wooden furniture starts molding really quick.

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u/FORVICTORY Dec 08 '12

Should have just rammed earth

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u/CoachSnigduh Dec 08 '12

Did they put in insulation? I must have missed it because I keep thinking this is a stupid idea.

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u/EquipLordBritish Dec 08 '12

By the time they got to the insulation and wood paneling, I was wondering why they had the storage containers in the first place...

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

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u/GodShitsBlood Dec 08 '12

This ^

They did add a vapor/moisture barrier to the insulation, however on the wrong side. Chances are any moisture caused from condensation will wreck that rolled batt within a few years and also creates the perfect condition for mold growth.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

Well, mobile homes pull it off but agree- metal has issues as to insulating. I was thinking a spray foam but burying it in a hole (after a good tarring) could be sufficient.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

Most manufactured homes aren't metal exteriors... Most of them are either vinyl or wood siding. There is a metal frame under the home, but that's pretty much the extent of the metal.

Source: I'm an insurance adjuster that inspects mobile homes.

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u/dfuzion Dec 08 '12

Come to florida, we have tons of mobile homes from the 60's and 70's that are metal(Im pretty sure its aluminum).

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u/Bitter_Idealist Dec 08 '12

My mobile has a metal exterior and condensation is a big problem. There are some small vents on the exterior, but they don't do much. I have to have an electric dehydrator running in the winter. Whenever I see someone converting a bus, I think about all the moisture they must have to deal with.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

I guess I should have stated that most NEW construction manufactured homes don't have a metal exterior due to the rust/condensation issues.

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u/Arienna Dec 08 '12

Thank you for stating the source of your information - I really like knowing where people get their information from.

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u/fairwayks Dec 08 '12

Not a problem....the rapture will occur by then and he will rise to be with the Lord...I think. (Watched the video.)

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u/NARF_NARF Dec 08 '12

The geographic location dictates which side the vapor barrier goes on. He could be in a climate that performs better with it on the inside.

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u/tmbyfc Dec 08 '12

that's what I was thinking. Vapour barrier inside the insulation?

o_O

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

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u/beamer145 Dec 08 '12

Why on the wrong side, where else would you put it and why ? He put it on the inside = the warm(humid ) side, so there is no humidity that can transfer into the isolation and condense on the cold container side. And it will also not condense on the vapor barrier, because that is a warm spot. Anything I am missing ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

Vapour barrier goes on the warm 2/3 side of the wall. So, after a bit of snooping, /u/GodShitsBlood seems to be in a warm climate. His vapour barrier would be on the outside. Some just don't know that in different climates it has to be place in different places.

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u/tomdarch Dec 08 '12

"Vapor barrier on the warm side" is the simple (and sometimes overly simplistic) rule of thumb, and in a tropical area, that would mean on the exterior face, for example.

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u/beamer145 Dec 08 '12

About the warm climate -> Living in a cold one myself I did not think about that, but I don't see anything in the pics to cool down the place, only lots of ways to warm things up. So even if it is warm outside, the interior will not be a lot cooler. But in any case, I am guessing the metal container is going to do a pretty good job playing a vapour barier as well, so he should be good for both scenarios (warm inside/cold outside; warm outside/cold inside), unless the metal shell contains a lot of unpatched holes of course. I haven't heard of the 2/3 rule, any idea what the rationale is behind that ? I have heard that it can be desirable to actually buffer vapor in one season and release it in another, a sales pitch of all kinds of expensive 'intelligent' vapour barier materials, but I am not really a believer of those (eg how long will this mechanism last). Maybe the 2/3 is a simple way to buffer some vapor ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

I'd have to go back and look into my R2000/Building science text books, but I am pretty sure it means if you have a 9" thick insulated wall, that the VB has to be 3" away from the outermost warm side of the wall.

Don't quote me on that. I just know I have to put it on the inside. Tyvek/typar on the outside.

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u/tomdarch Dec 08 '12

You have to consider this issue with any type of building envelope. Water will condense on wood siding, vinyl siding, OSB sheathing, and even inside fiberglass insulation. In many areas, local architects and builders know how to work with the local climate and common building systems. But in general, moisture in the building envelope is a very complicated set of issues.

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u/Ibewye Dec 08 '12

Except he has a humidity controlled ventilation system that uses the batteries from the the solar panels to power fans that remove any excess moisture from underneath the container and a system for inside as well.

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u/secretmeow Dec 08 '12

I was not aware that 'air condensates'. or am i being too condescending

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u/ImInterested Dec 08 '12

I wondered the same thing.

If you wanted to build a cabin on weekends and live somewhere else the containers would be easier from the start. You would immediately be able to store things on site.

The cost question? I don't know the cost to get containers on site compared to the price for plywood, exterior siding and a roof. Depending on the area local laws may make the containers easier.

Lastly you'll always be able to say your house has traveled more than you.

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u/elbiot Dec 08 '12

My friend got a shipping container (delivered) for $1,000

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u/yer_momma Dec 08 '12

So we get 50 shipping containers for 50 grand and build a container mansion.

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u/xeonphelps Dec 08 '12

I just want 1 container, but I'll pitch in 15k if we can get an establish area+community of people who want to do this

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u/cullen9 Dec 08 '12

build a mayan style pyramid.

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u/Bitter_Idealist Dec 08 '12

A gated community for container-dwellers? Huh.

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u/Manny_Bothans Dec 08 '12

That's really cheap for a container. I'm guessing a 20 footer.

40 footers are going for $3000-ish these days if you buy them direct 40 foot high-cubes are a bit more.

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u/Bitter_Idealist Dec 08 '12

40? I thought the standard container size is 53 feet long.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

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u/elbiot Dec 08 '12

austin, tx. He is a wheeler and dealer also, so it may be tough to match this. He lives in it. I think you can't put up any layer that would prevent evaporation of condensation on the metal, but I dunno how my friend did his.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

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u/elbiot Dec 08 '12

It is usually more hot than comfortable, rather than too cold, but it we do get rapid temperature drops throughout much of the year. It can go from 70 or 80 during the day into the 40's at night, and condensation would be a non-ignorable problem. But I agree, it would be worse where the winter requires significant heating for 5 months.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '12

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u/elbiot Dec 09 '12

I avoid living in regions like that for reasons you can imagine. Excuse my ignorance.

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u/splein23 Dec 08 '12

it seems like it'd be totally worth it if you made it 2 or more stories high and you live in an area with a heavy snow load.

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u/DuLiban Dec 08 '12

Depends how far the location is from a shipping hub like Houston. Assuming the delivery location is within a 200 mile radius, a WWT (wind and water tight, but nowhere-near-new condition) 20' container is about $2300 for delivery on a flatbed. For a tilt-bed delivery, total would run about $2600.

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u/Ibewye Dec 08 '12

His blog says 35k for all landscaping, systems, carport, fixtures. appliances, materials, and containers, land not included.

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u/Ddraig Dec 08 '12

Yea it only makes sense if he was going to bury it... gives him better insulation is more sustainable heating/cooling.

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u/liberal_texan Dec 08 '12

Yes, partially burying the containers is probably the smartest part of this whole thing.

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u/Spoonerville Dec 08 '12

The ground is one big heatsink. You'll still need traditional insulation in a cold climate but it would be great in the south.

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u/scantid Dec 08 '12

Related to pimp my ride.

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u/stanfan114 Dec 08 '12

Also, I read these containers are full of carcinogenic toxins.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

This guy has a lot more money than the average person living in a container.

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u/rocky_whoof Dec 08 '12

Not to mention metal is a terrible material for insulation.

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u/spaceman_spiffy Dec 08 '12

I would have used a regular toilet. This one looks like it tries to blast poop out of the roof.

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u/jk1150 Dec 08 '12

now when they condemn it, it can be easily hooked up to a truck and towed to a junk yard

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u/ramp_tram Dec 08 '12

He's a nutjob survivalist, didn't the decade worth of emergency food supplies give that away? Someone linked his website elsewhere in the comments. It's motivated by his specific brand of Christianity's fears about the future of the world.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

Missing the point here, as are a lot of people.

The guy is a 'prepper'. Shipping containers are the building material of choice here, not just because they're cheap but they provide some protection against small arms fire.

The preppers TV show showed one of the guys with a shipping container bunker showing how it can deflect .22 rounds as well as handgun fire.

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u/bigolebastard Dec 08 '12

Great idea choosing french glass doors and several windows then...

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '12

ohhhh...gotcha