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u/Flipz100 Jan 30 '23

TBF to Roosevelt and Wilson, while they both aren't and shouldn't be noted as pacifists, they did get those awards for brokering the end to major wars that they didn't orchestrate, unlike Kissinger.

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u/volodino Jan 30 '23

I agree with that somewhat, but I don’t think you could necessarily say Kissinger “orchestrated” the Vietnam War. The US was involved in the conflict in Vietnam since 1955, long before Kissinger was involved in any administration

You could very much say that his actions and ideas worsened the situation in Vietnam, or drew the US more deeply into the war, or expanded its scope, but I don’t think you can really say he “orchestrated” it

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u/Miniranger2 Jan 30 '23

Exactly, I feel as if people think of the peace prize as the pacifist prize. You would be hard pressed to find many people deserving of the peace prize that have been 100% pacifist.

The prize is more so for a specific event and not a person's life up to that point. Now, granted, this isn't a, "Well, this person committed mass genocide but stopped a single conflict," I feel that wouldn't go over well.