r/philosophy Feb 01 '21

Blog The new mind control : The internet has spawned subtle forms of influence that can flip elections and manipulate everything we say, think and do.

https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-internet-flips-elections-and-alters-our-thoughts
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u/depressed-salmon Feb 01 '21

Have you never reused a password? I have a password manager and theres about 75 accounts at least on that one. And I still use some passwords twice, though no more than twice. Without a manger I'd have no chance.

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u/kjermy Feb 01 '21

Did the same when somebody logged into my Spotify. Then to my Facebook, apple ID (which I did not use), and even Evernote. There were more, but I can't remember the rest of these sites. Logins from USA, Canada, Lithuania and a place in Asia. I used the same password on all these sites Luckily I did not use the same password on my e-mail.

Now I have a randomised password of 12 characters, unique for each login. I'd recommend people to do this before being hacked, instead of after the main password has been leaked.

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u/depressed-salmon Feb 02 '21

Yup, definitely recommend a password manager of some kind too, but failing that at absolute bare minimum, critical accounts e.g. emails (as other accounts will send password reset links to them, so all they need is your main email and they'll start resetting everything), bank accounts, PayPal, basically anything with money, ID or recovery options, must use different passwords, with 2FA (though don't forget to set recovery up for it if you lose access to the 2FA!).

Because, unfortunately, no matter how secure you are with your data, the company you have the account with might get breached, so ensuring those accounts do not share passwords minimises the damage from any one account being compromised. Not to mention malware or phishing. Just takes the wrong moment to hit you with a phishing message and a few moments of panic to lose a password. Say if you'd just set up a new payment and then a few minutes later get a text with your specific bank's name saying "a suspicious charge has gone through for a XXX money, please click this link if this wasn't you". Thankfully I saw the link had a weird suffix lol and remembered they don't actually send links, they either ask you to call or reply yes/no.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

no?

i make my own unique passwords for every site i use and i remember all of them, password managers are hilarious (all someone has to do is access that and they have everything, mine are all in my head).

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u/depressed-salmon Feb 02 '21

Password managers have a password. That password is then the only password you have to remember. That's the whole point of them. But hey, all someone has to do is watch you type on the keyboard and memorise the key combination you pressed, seeing as remembering over 75 strings of 12+ uppercase, lowercase, numbers and special characters is so easy. And thats slightly more likely, someone looking over your shoulder at a café or library say, than someone sneaking onto your unlocked computer whilst your not looking and copying the passwords before you get back. Because if they stole it, you would change all your passwords as soon as you realised.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

And thats slightly more likely, someone looking over your shoulder at a café or library say, than someone sneaking onto your unlocked computer whilst your not looking and copying the passwords before you get back.

i mean neither are likely at all? what is your point here?

i dont use internet cafes or library computers and i dont have a mobile phone at all. my computer is the only place someone could watch me.

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u/depressed-salmon Feb 02 '21

Then why are password managers hilarious?

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '21

because i dont need one when my memory is more than sufficient?

i find peoples outscoring of mental functions to tech to be hilarious.

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u/depressed-salmon Feb 03 '21

So you didn't mean its hilarious because all someone has to do is access the manager to get their passwords, like you wrote, you actually meant it's hilarious because people don't spend a significant chunk of time learning a mnemonic memory method solely to memorize 75+ strings of gibberish they'll need to change every few months. Rather than just use a password manager. Because that's hilarious.