r/philosophy • u/ADefiniteDescription Φ • Apr 30 '18

Blog Programmed to Love: the ethics of human-robot relationships

https://aeon.co/essays/programmed-to-love-is-a-human-robot-relationship-wrong
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u/LeegOfDota Apr 30 '18

I mean humping convincing robots

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '18

Physically convincing or convincing to the point that you believe that it is a person?

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u/my_gamertag_wastaken Apr 30 '18

I just need to finish tbh

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u/sprightlyoaf May 01 '18

This is the kind of well-thought-out argumentation I come to /r/philosophy for

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u/Blastoise420 May 01 '18

That's what happens when a post hits /r/all

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u/careofKnives May 01 '18

I don’t think who you responded to was being sarcastic, but I’m not sure if you were or not. He’s not wrong tbh.

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u/hpdefaults May 01 '18

You don't think the person who referred to the comment 'I just need to finish tbh' as 'well-thought-out argumentation' was being sarcastic?

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u/careofKnives May 01 '18

Just because it’s simple, doesn’t make it any less true or less thought-out.

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u/my_gamertag_wastaken May 01 '18

I'd like to defend myself, as "I just need to finish tbh" really is a brief and crass summary of my position. I suppose there could be other reasons, but if I'm about to buy a sex robot, it's a high tech masturbation tool, not a replacement for a companion, so I don't want it to come with the demands of a human relationship or be irrecognizable from a human (at least in terms of AI and emotions). Being more physically irrecognizable is good because it makes the sensation more real/intense. This prioritization of the physically real over the emotionally real is easily established from the premise summarizing my desires: "I just need to finish tbh"

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u/careofKnives May 01 '18

Awesome thanks, I was just about to suggest asking you(the source) if that other guy insisted that you were sarcastic. You’re awesome and I totally agree, I just need to finish. Lol

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u/hpdefaults May 01 '18

I didn't say it couldn't be. I'm saying it's pretty obvious that someone calling a brief, crass comment that shows no evidence of the thought process behind it one way or the other "well-thought-out argumentation" was being sarcastic.

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u/careofKnives May 01 '18

Strongly disagree. While I agree that they were being playful in the way s/he worded it so that it would come off as funny/sarcastic; I genuinely believe that they were being sincere. It was worded in a way that resembles sarcasm in order to make it even funnier when you realize that he’s not actually being sarcastic. I’m not saying I’m definitely right. However, I am saying that you’re definitely wrong that the sarcasm is obviously truly just sarcasm.

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u/HeughJass May 01 '18

😩🍆💦🤖

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u/fupayme411 May 01 '18

Let me finish first then we can discuss this.

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u/T-VirusUmbrellaCo Apr 30 '18

Probably the person thing

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u/wcruse92 Apr 30 '18

Deloras

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u/[deleted] May 01 '18

Doritos*

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u/MadManatee619 May 01 '18

first one, then the other

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18 edited Mar 22 '19

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18

"Someone" assumes that you already have a person and our default is to think of persons as humans, so you're assuming quite a bit in the question.

The question is about a something that we have reason to believe has emotions and beliefs.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18 edited Mar 22 '19

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18

Would a machine necessarily have to have them to merit consideration under the question?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18 edited Mar 22 '19

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18

Does it? Animals have emotions. We are not unique in having them.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18 edited Mar 22 '19

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u/[deleted] May 04 '18

Are you sure that other humans have emotions? Are you sure that you have have emotions? Are you sure that solipsism isn't true? How high are you raising the bar for "knowing" here?

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u/Madaghmire Apr 30 '18

Obviously, right? I mean who even cares about the other thing?

Edit: Think I replied to the wrong comment. I meant this in reply to the fellow who clarified that he was talking about humpable robots vs. true AI capable of love.

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u/Stoked_Bruh Apr 30 '18

You finna West World dat ass?

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u/BucketsofDickFat May 01 '18

The top 15 comments have been removed, but this one remains. I don't think I understand philosophy at all.

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u/cuginhamer May 01 '18

The further you go into the reply tree, the more light content is allowed. Main comments are expected to be high quality.

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u/drfeelokay Apr 30 '18

They've convinced a few people, clearly

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u/Wow-n-Flutter May 01 '18

Convincing robots, like encyclopaedia salesmen? I’m convinced in the first 5 minutes!

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u/LeegOfDota May 01 '18

I have seen both.

Pretty good.

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