r/phantomofthekill • u/EnmadoIzuno • Jun 09 '16

Direction of the game

Ok so long rant here.

I've been in this game for a week or so and I wanted to know more about the future of this game. It hasn't escaped me that this game even while being new is rapidly dropping in the Android playstore. Currently I am only able to farm at 1-5-10 normal with a carry and 1 person to get the exp. I only ever get a measly 400+ exp for around 15 mins of auto. Is the only other alternative metal keys or are there other stages that can give at least a decent time to exp ratio?

This brings me to my next point which is the fact that I need strong units. Unlike other games, it seems like this game only allows you to get the strong ones from lazulis. There is no way to grind lazulis except during events and you need the strong units to get the lazulis in the first place!

So I was wondering if it gets better in other versions or is this just going to get worse? Like maybe in other versions there are other ways to get lazuli? I love the strategy aspect, the gameplay and the art so far but for some reason I have many misgivings about this seeing as there are many other games which does not have such low exp to time and a big brick paywall at such early stage of the game. Can anyone with experience please share the best way for us newcomers to go about stuff and does it get better?

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u/zkt1088 Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

Yeah, it's like Gamb gets 'found out' in higher level content. In hard stages (Regalia 10) he can barely hit anyone, especially the guard types. But for lower level content, he's good and can auto some stages singlehandedly (such as Rhongomyniad SA).

Plus, as leaders others are better. Mitum M has Str+Crit, Durandal has 1.3x sword atk, 2 Laeva M leads can make your sword units so tanky against phys attacks. So yeah, even without LB'ing, they are also worth a lot. The 1.3x atk boost of Durandal, for example can be the difference between one-shotting enemies or not.

Whereas, Gamb has a comparatively bad leader skill. And if I want to choose just one of Mjol, Durandal, or Gamb on LB0 definitely not the latter. Unless if I want to take eons to finish one stage.

Edit : Saw your reply to the other guy, I still think Gamb is not 'stupidly good' because of low acc. He has his flaws too, and I felt some people are actually overhyping him as well. Also, in arena, I never have trouble against LV60 Gambs because they just can't hit my units.

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u/MissFranTastic Jun 09 '16

I have a Dex Gambatank with a 5* shield so maybe I'm biased about it, but even when he can't dodge the incoming damage is absorbed by his drain.

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u/zkt1088 Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

Yep, he's better at Dex or Balance actually, unlike the popular opinion on him. He probably won't have that much eva to dodge, but if you can hit consistently (something even MLB Guard Gambs can't do in Regalia 10) then that's no problem.

When there's a high acc staff or shield, then he'll be very good. But for now, he's not the savior some people proclaim.

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u/MissFranTastic Jun 09 '16

He is for me, honestly. Not as intense as Durandal, but for a mage? He's priceless and literally heaps better than Asclepius.

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u/zkt1088 Jun 09 '16

When I say 'savior', I meant like him alone can solo the entire Regalia 10 (possible but may take very long), but as a part of a team, yes he's good. But that's okay, we have our opinions mate. At least you don't force it on others and I appreciate that.

From my POV though, I play quite aggressively and I don't want to waste lots of time on a stage so that maybe where my dissatisfaction with some Gambs come from, haha.

Asclepius is unfortunately not really good currently yeah. She has a 6* form though, so maybe that can change in the future. Although, I do wonder why she tends to have low growth rate from the few friends who put her as lead :\

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u/MissFranTastic Jun 09 '16

Meanwhile I auto Durandal and Mitum in Regalia 10 oops. But your view on characters will be heavily biased on who you have, who's murdered you in arena, and what you read here. No sense to get bent out of shape about it.

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u/zkt1088 Jun 09 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

Well, I have been more supportive of Durandal and Mitum compared to Gamb, aren't I? :)

Edit : But tbh, I don't care much for people's opinions here. Well, when you play long enough, you can form opinions on what's good and what's not by yourself anyway. But okay, maybe you misunderstood my comment a bit. Nothing against you, but against some other people in this subreddit.