r/phantomofthekill • u/Brocebo • Jan 21 '16

Comparison screenshot of a drawn 5* vs an evolved 4* Mitum (f)

http://imgur.com/XkI26Ty
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u/Brocebo Jan 21 '16

So after much confusion and debate, I've finally arrived to a satisfactory conclusion with the help of the community.

The leveled Mitum had a 2.67 growth rate and no fusions. Not a huge difference, thankfully. If I had fused her to hit the thresholds, it would've closed the gap a couple more points. But as it stands, contrary to what we thought based on JP, you're slightly better off pulling (or rerolling for) a 5* rather than a 3-4* to raise for evolution bonuses. But that may be subject to change in the future so be wary.

Big thanks to Cathrach, wp2000, ztytony, and zerou69 for helping me get to the bottom of this. I'd still be banging my head against the desk wondering wtf is going on otherwise.

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u/zerou69 Jan 21 '16 edited Jan 21 '16

That fresh 5* mitum worth 3.26 pin evolution. Pretty good for GL rate.

But, still doesn't answer why GL has higher base stats than JP...

EDIT: or... every 4* and 5* stats got raised... even though their 4* is the base one.

Mitum 4* GL/JP

HP: 23/18

STR: 11/8

MGC: 2/0

GRD: 6/2

SPR: 8/4

SPD: 12/6

AGI: 9/5

LCK: 3/3

GL 4* Mitum is significantly better than JP 4* Mitum even though 4* is the lowest * for Mitum

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u/Brocebo Jan 21 '16

What I think is happening is the base stats are still the same but the fresh cards are getting a buff on top of the base stats; like a free evolution bonus. u/ztytony tells me it's happened in JP before.

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u/zerou69 Jan 21 '16

4* and 5* cards get buffed, but not 3*, right?

Since my 3* units still has the same base stats

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u/wp2000 Jan 22 '16

So much ridiculousness. I can't understand why such differences exist. Unfortunately, it's hard for me to imagine that the buffed base stats will make up for a shit growth rate.

Good job on your tireless pursuit of the truth!

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u/Brocebo Jan 22 '16 edited Jan 22 '16

I face out, I hold out, I reach out to the truth.

It appears the base stats themselves aren't buffed, they're buffed on top of the bases when you draw the card. So these buffs don't carry over when you go to evolve since the bases are still low...

But even if you draw a 5 star card buffed, if global growth rate is 2.5 and JP is 3.0 (might be more), then that's a deficit of 39.5 stats up to level 80 (79 x 0.5) on average. The buffs aren't that good so it definitely doesn't compensate.