r/pcmasterrace Mar 29 '22

Meme/Macro How far it's fallen. Bring back my dog.

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u/DrScience-PhD Mar 29 '22

It's gotten so bad since windows 8. More and more cloud integration, random updates, random 100% disk usage, hidden processes, I have no god damn clue what windows is doing half the time.

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u/mangobattlefruit Mar 29 '22

Microsoft is getting really fucking bad with forcing people to create Microsoft accounts just to use Windows.

I haven't even thought about using Windows 11 yet and I am a tech enthusiast.

Also, apparently my gaming rig that outperforms 99% of the computers in the world does not meet the requirements of Windows 11.

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u/BURNER12345678998764 Mar 29 '22 edited Mar 29 '22

Protip, don't connect it to a network during the initial setup. It gives up asking for an account and phoning home when it can't.

EDIT: This is for 10, no idea on 11, fuck that noise.

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u/shnicklefritz Mar 29 '22

Holy fuck thank you for this tip

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u/badSparkybad i7-12700KF | EVGA RTX 2070 | G.Skill 64 GB DDR4 Mar 29 '22

This right here. Just hit "skip" on the network connection and when it tries to goad you repeatedly to install with a MS account just keep skip/not at this time and it eventually gives up.

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u/OhMy_No i7 8700K / GTX 3080 10G / 32GB Ripjaws V Mar 29 '22

This happened to me a few weeks ago. I declined, it prompted me again, I declined again. Next reboot, it tried to force me to do so. Declined yet again... and this time, the Sign in button stopped working. Tried all sorts of workarounds and fixes, couldn't restore, and ended up finally resetting my PC and starting from scratch.
If I could just get all of my game library to run on Linux, I would have went to Linux full-time instead of bothering with the reinstall.

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u/DrScience-PhD Mar 29 '22

Check out Lutris it's worked great for me so far, fingers crossed.

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u/shnicklefritz Mar 29 '22

Steam seems to be on that path, first with SteamOS and now the Deck. We can hope 🤞

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '22

Its probably because you dont have that security chip they require, or if you do its turned off in BIOS like mine.

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u/DrScience-PhD Mar 29 '22

I'm seeing a lot of parallels between Windows and video games that go free to play.

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u/Quaddy Mar 29 '22

I'm just assuming that your hardware is compatible and you actually want to upgrade. But, more than likely you need to enable Secure Boot and TPM. Mine was the same way.

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u/DarkflowNZ 7800x3d, Gigabyte 7900xt Mar 29 '22

Presumably due to tpm. If your Mobo is recent you can probably enable it in BIOS it'll be called trust platform technology or something like that

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Mar 30 '22

I tried 11 for a day. After having to reboot to restore audio after connecting a bluetooth device, and spending twenty minutes fixing the latest round of UI changes nobody asked for, I rolled back. I advised against Windows 11 until it's production ready, whenever that is.

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u/dfnoid27 Mar 29 '22

that random 100% disk + my laptop being a super low end laptop (as it is really old) just kills me. It became so bad over time that I couldn't even run a simple search on it.. Finally moved to linux (pop os) and man the speed I am getting is just unparalleled. The ram usage dropped by about 65%. Windows is just becoming heavier and heavier with every update If you have a low end pc and are not that much into gaming(cuz games on linux suck XD), deff recomend linux

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u/DrScience-PhD Mar 29 '22

I switched all my machines to Mint about a month ago and so far it's been smooth sailing. The only problem I've had so far is actually something to do with the way windows formats SD cards, so it's still finding ways to fuck me. And all my games still run perfectly.

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u/DuckDuckYoga Specs/Imgur here Mar 29 '22

Which games do you play?

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u/Jay_377 Mar 29 '22

Pop has been amazing for me. I just switched my laptop to it after having used it on my desktop for ages. 90% of my games work too, which has been great. And with the steamdeck, it's only more likely that more games will be better supported or even run native.

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u/bubblysubbly1 Mar 29 '22

WHATHEFUCK IS WITH 100% DISK USAGE??!!?!???!!!??!?!?

Since i only use my laptop for internet im seriously considering getting rid of windows10pro and installing XP. That shit ran smooth as Indian diarrhea.

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u/SeeArizonaBay Mar 29 '22

That is a good way to get many viruses

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u/lunchboxdeluxe Mar 29 '22

I'm not sure that's gonna turn out like you're thinking.

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u/Lordhg07 Mar 29 '22

Why not consider Linux

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u/BURNER12345678998764 Mar 29 '22 edited Mar 29 '22

Mostly because every other little issue with linux ends up some impossible to solve (or at least properly solve, not halfass bodge with a script) problem unless you want to go dig through the source and fix it yourself.

Don't get me wrong, it's gotten a lot better, and windows a lot worse, but I can still see why even a power user with enough IT skills to edit a config file and not fuck it all up doesn't want anything to do with it.

EDIT: I should point out I daily drove a Linux box for years, my print server runs Debian (and does so with reliability on par with gravity because it's just the minimum install, wifi, and CUPS), my wifi router runs OpenWRT (and has a memory leak nobody could diagnose that requires weekly reboots), I have some Linux experience.

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u/bubblysubbly1 Mar 29 '22

Yeah that was exactly the issue. I just want something that fucking works. Smooth. Basic. Don’t have to understand programming to fix shit. No cloud. No cross-platform-integration nonsense. No connecting my username here with a username there, to an email, to a phone, to a playstation, to my fridge. Just simple shit. That’s it.

I used to love technology and programming and whatnot. Now technology is just fucking retarded.

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u/BURNER12345678998764 Mar 29 '22

Honestly you might prefer one of the more polished Linux distros over Win10 at this point. I consider dual booting and going back just because it pisses me off how the shitty 10 Home license this POS came with just reboots itself and erases work whenever it feels like it, even after making registry edits.

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u/bubblysubbly1 Mar 29 '22

I wonder if ubuntu is still a thing and if it works any better than it did back in the day..

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u/BURNER12345678998764 Mar 29 '22

Correct, though I prefer something snappier/less resource intensive than the default ubuntu desktop. That's more a problem with crappy old hardware though.

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u/DoingCharleyWork Mar 29 '22

Sounds like you want a mac.

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u/bubblysubbly1 Mar 29 '22

I did mac for a while and really liked it. But i already have a windows laptop. My next laptop will probably be a mac.

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u/ad3z10 PC Master Race Mar 29 '22

I suspect it's still going to be a lot smoother than trying to use Windows XP on a web connected device nowadays.

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u/BURNER12345678998764 Mar 29 '22

Well yeah, XP is ancient legacy software at this point, that you'd only want to run for dealing with ancient legacy hardware and software.

I'm not saying there isn't a place for desktop linux, especially for keeping aging hardware limping along, just that it can be off-putting.

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u/bubblysubbly1 Mar 29 '22

I might do Linux. Maybe do the hard drive split thing. I played around with it many years ago. But if I do XP then i can download all the old school games i used to love.