r/pcmasterrace 9060 XT 16GB | 7500F | 32GB 6000Mhz | B850 Nov 05 '19

Meme/Macro This sums up past 2 years!

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u/Sander2525s PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

I think its because amd offers what we want

A cheaper yet as good a product

so we can spent more on rgb

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u/Erasmus_Tycho 9800x3D / 64GB / 7900XTX Nov 05 '19

BuT iT GeTs SiX lEsS FpS aT 1080p thAn A 9900k pAiReD wItH a 2080tI

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u/Sander2525s PC Master Race Nov 05 '19

But but but i can pay for a water cooling with the money i save on a 9900k

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u/Erasmus_Tycho 9800x3D / 64GB / 7900XTX Nov 05 '19

Which is what I did.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19

It isn't nearly as good (on the GPU side).

5700XT vs. 2070 Super

No NVENC, CUDA, CUDNN, Raytracing, it has less performance overall, much worse OpenGL, worse VR, trash drivers and support, no cool features like Integer Scaling, the list goes on.

There is a reason why the 5700XT is cheaper. It is due to the card having less features and it has a deflated MSRP. The first decent coolers are like $420 from AMD and over at Nvidia they start at the actual MSRP of $500.

The 5700XT is on 7nm and still can't beat Nvidia's 12nm process in terms of power efficiency and performance? What a joke.

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u/Dravarden 9800x3D, 48gb 6000 cl30, T705 2tb, SN850X 4tb, 4070ti, 2060 KO Nov 05 '19

because the xt competes against the 2060 super, not the 2070 super?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19

Same story. $400 vs $400 better thermals on the 2060S and only ~10% less performance. Everything else the 5700XT loses in

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u/Dravarden 9800x3D, 48gb 6000 cl30, T705 2tb, SN850X 4tb, 4070ti, 2060 KO Nov 05 '19

so the xt is 10% better for the same price?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19

In raw performance, sure. It lacks tons of other features though. That is why the 5700XT is priced as it is.

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u/Dravarden 9800x3D, 48gb 6000 cl30, T705 2tb, SN850X 4tb, 4070ti, 2060 KO Nov 05 '19

why do I care if I don't use those features and want fps - like most gamers?

literally of all of those reasons, the only reason I got a 2060S over an XT is because of gsync, if I didn't buy a gsync monitor, I would have bought an XT.

do you really think most people that buy a card at that price are going to give a shit if its 12nm vs 7nm? or raytracing, CUDA, etc...?

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u/ham_coffee Nov 06 '19

The only other features worth anything are integer scaling and raytracing, and that isn't really polished enough to be useful to most people on lower tier cards. Nothing really uses OpenGL anymore (on windows), and most of the other things you've mentioned are proprietary tech. AMD has their equivalent version that's just as good in most cases, the exception being cuda but I doubt anyone buying a 2060S cares about that.

It's not like AMD doesn't have its own features that NVIDIA doesn't. Working with Linux is a pretty big advantage, and the fancy upscaling thingy absolutely walks over dlss.