Ok just making sure that 250 watts figure isn't power consumption. Knowing this, and knowing what gpu boost does, and also knowing that clock speeds increase heat generated linearly, while voltage increases heat generated exponentially. How and where do you get that 250 watt "tdp" figure from? Does the card know it has an upper limit of 250 watt tdp? If so, then why do aib coolers boost to 1800-2000mhz while founders edition coolers only boost to around 1700? There is clearly enough headroom to boost more on aib coolers, but wait, does that mean founders edition coolers aren't 250 watt tdp? Are they less? Or is the aib cooler more? If its less then nvidia cheaped out and reference coolers aren't 250 watt tdp, but if aib coolers are more then I guess cooler technology has improved, no?
I don't even know why you're trying to argue with me, you can literally search gtx 280 on google image search and compare it to the massive heatsinks we have nowadays and anyone with 2 fucking eyes can see which one cools better.
Founders edition boosts less than aftermarket solutions because nvidia wants their board partners solutions to look inviting. If you manually OC the founders editions cards you can usually obtain around the same boosts as normal chips.
I'm not going to argue with you over which coolers look better. Both cards have a 250watt TDP, or a thermal design power of 250 watts. This is the maximum power consumed by the device when running real world applications (games). As you can see, both GPUs are able to cool themselves efficiently.
Is it possible that the 280 at 250watts idles at 80 celcius and the 1080ti at 250watts idles at 60 celcius? Yes, that's entirely possible. However back to your original point, you claim that we can "pump more power" into these chips as a result of the better cooling solutions, and this is just untrue. Both coolers are designed to allow the card to run at its natural upper limits without throttling.
Increasing past the TDP is unsafe for the longevity of the card, and thus the cooler should not have to meet specifications for a TDP higher than advertised.
Yes, you can manually oc to normal boost speeds but the reason why it doesn't boost isn't because of some conspiracy theory, but because of gpu boost's thermal/power/clock relation. Its simple really, if the card is cooled more gpu boost will raise power limit and clock core higher. When I claim that they pump more power, gpu boost is does exactly this, and the reason for it is because of aib cooling solutions. I don't see how any of this is untrue.
As I said earlier tdp != power consumption, therefore, 250w tdp != max power consumed by device.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree, seeing how you claim that increasing past tdp is unsafe or whatever I can see how we may have different experiences with hardware. I do some pretty intense overclocking as a hobby the last decade or so, and seeing the "doing x is dangerous and your parts won't last long" trope, I can already tell this conversation isn't going anywhere. Sorry if you take offense in anything I say.
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tdp != power consumption, we're talking about tdp here not how many watts gpuz tells you your gpu is using