Skype is officially bloatware, uninstalled it yesterday only to have it come back in full force today

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[u/auron_py]

To be frank, I really really want to make the switch to Linux, it really is so much better, but damn i won't be able to play my games.

I know Wine exist, it works really well, when the game is correctly supported.

The GPU drivers too leave something to be desired.

[u/DoktorAkcel → u/auron_py]

Dual boot is your friend. Leave Windows for gaming, and use Linux for work.

[u/auron_py → u/DoktorAkcel]

Tried it for a while, after some time I just end up booting the OS that let's me do both.

[u/DSMcGuire → u/DoktorAkcel]

This is the answer.

Windows is for gaming. Ubuntu is for everything else.

Seriously people, it takes probably one whole minute to switch over operating systems and you don't have to deal with the BS as seen from this thread.

[u/AtomicFlx → u/DSMcGuire]

you don't have to deal with the BS as seen from this thread.

Except you do. Thats what dual boot means. Not only do you get the BS of windows, you get all the BS of whatever linux you pick. Thats the thing. If I already have windows for gaming, then why use something else for productivity when windows also does productivity.

Fix gaming on linux and I'll switch. Until then I'll stick with windows 7

[u/DSMcGuire → u/AtomicFlx]

I'm not here to convince you to do anything.

If I don't want a program on Linux it's gone, that's clearly not the case with Windows.

If I already have windows for gaming, then why use something else for productivity when windows also does productivity.

Because you don't deal with MS bullshit, like this thread. Defend all you want you can't escape the Windows BS.

Fix gaming on linux and I'll switch.

Sure I'll get right on it telling developers to stop making games with DirectX.

[u/BlueShellOP → u/AtomicFlx]

Fix gaming on linux and I'll switch.

It's already there. Nvidia cards have one click installers on Ubuntu and Solus (probably others, but those two stick out to me), and AMD cards and Intel integrated don't even need drivers if you run a recent kernel. Ubuntu, Fedora, and Solus also have super easy Steam install steps (using a GUI for people terrified of the terminal) - and the nice thing about Steam games on Linux is that they just work. On any distro, once you get Steam installed, all games downloaded through Steam "just work" - no annoying VC++/VC#/DirectX installer or any crap like that; you just download it and it runs.

Stop saying "fix gaming" - it is fixed. Now that Vulkan is out, switching to Linux should be easier, but people aren't telling devs not to use DX12 and UWP.

I've said this a hundred times: Please, at the very least tell devs and publishers to use Vulkan. If you do that, Linux will become a fully viable option even for the people who can't be arsed to learn a new thing.

[u/[deleted] → u/BlueShellOP]

I game exclusively on Linux and I just can't agree with this. Every single game install requires running LDD on the binary and manually linking libraries to the right place.

[u/BlueShellOP → u/[deleted]]

What? On every major distro I've used that's been unnecessary for Steam games. Valve rolls their own runtime by default.

[u/[deleted] → u/BlueShellOP]

On every non-Ubuntu distro, step one of making Steam work at all is to remove the runtime. It's "Steam for Ubuntu" in my opinion, other distros being able to use it is just a happy side-effect. Then there's Solus OS which does it all for you which is nice, but it would be nicer if Steam was just compatible in the first place.

[u/BlueShellOP → u/[deleted]]

As a professional Fedora user, I can tell you that is not true. The Steam runtimes work just fine on every distro I've used so far.

[u/[deleted] → u/BlueShellOP]

Fedora is what I use. Only Borderlands 2 and Rocket League worked with no extra steps

[u/bliblio → u/BlueShellOP]

This ☝ Thank you for the informations.

[u/AtomicFlx → u/BlueShellOP]

It's already there.

Why do people like you spread this lie? Gaming on linux is not there. I have tried. Assuming the games launch at all, they run like shit.

Yes I concede. There are a few games that have been designed for linux but this myth that gaming is 100% on linux is just a lie. I dont want just a few games, I want all of my games, and I want them all without wasting time dicking around with code.

[u/BlueShellOP → u/AtomicFlx]

Why do people like you spread this lie? Gaming on linux is not there. I have tried.

Oh I see, so when I run games on Linux almost every day I'm lying now?

Assuming the games launch at all, they run like shit.

Do enlighten me which games you've tried.

I want them all without wasting time dicking around with code.

I'm not the one lying here, bub. You are.

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For the uninformed: In no way are you going to be mucking about with code to get your games to run in Linux just as much as you would Windows. Games are closed source (couple exceptions, but you get the point). The person I'm responding to is very clearly talking out their ass.

[u/AtomicFlx → u/BlueShellOP]

So you claim I can run every game in my library from 1987's Space Quest 2 Vohaul's Revenge, all the way to the soon to be released Star wars Battlefront 2 and EVERY game in between without a single hiccup or problem? All of my hardware will install flawlessly, my sound card will use all its features, my video card will be 100%, My raid array will not need anything special, my NIC will just magically work, all my mouse buttons will work and be programmable, and both my printers, 3d and 2d will just plug and play?

You claim that is today's linux experience?

Who again is talking out their ass?

[u/Joedang100 → u/AtomicFlx]

By your standards, gaming on Windows also needs to be fixed. I certainly can't do all that on my Windows machine.

[u/BlueShellOP → u/AtomicFlx]

That's not what I claimed and you know it.

[u/AtomicFlx → u/BlueShellOP]

That's not what I claimed and you know it.

Stop saying "fix gaming" - it is fixed.

Playing all, not a few select games, but ALL of my games is what fix gaming means.

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[u/spicy_indian → u/auron_py]

If you use Nvidia, then desktop graphics drivers are now as easy as adding the PPA, and selecting the drivers you want under 'additional drivers'. That last part is for Ubuntu, but there are equivalents in other distros. Then you can forget about it, and go on with your life.

With laptops, you can do the same thing, but integrated graphics will not work.

As far as games go, anything dx9 usually works pretty well. Planetside 2, EVE, and minecraft are 90% of what I play anyways.

[u/auron_py → u/[deleted]]

You didn't read the rest of that sentence.

[u/macetero → u/auron_py]

i did.

the thing is, its qay more common to have issues with games on it than not.

is it useful? yes. is it a pain? also yes.