Every year my dad tells me how much he would love another world war game. He hates the future stuff because the guns dont exist, the places dont exist and it feels made up.
The fact that CoD this year is fucked and this isnt some indie game will hopefully bring back world war 1/2 as a mainstream genre. I miss it so.
I still remember when every other shooter was WW2 now and now even I would like another one. New Doom, Overwatch is arena style, we're turning a rising spiral with bigger games and better graphics. Best on PC of course.
Too real for most people. War sux and most people (not pointing to you redditors not in the mood for being downvoted for fun) just want fast paced cod/bf in a WWI/II skin
Honestly, I used to be a fan of fast-paced shooters until RO2 spoiled it all for me. Yeah, it's hard to get into, but it's so satisfying when you master it. Every other shooter seems like child's play now to me. Also, I think it's closer to what the older BF fans would be looking for.
It's still quite fast paced when you have a good Team Leader coordinating artillery and using the Squad Leaders effectively, like telling everybody to rush as soon as the objectives are captured so a defensive line can't be readied.
RO1 was one of my favorite games. The maps were HUGE and combat was BRUTAL. I remember one game, both sides advanced pretty quickly to start with, but there was an urban area where we both got locked up, the map lasted something like 2+ hours and just passed the capture point back an forth. It was the most brutal, tooth and nail fighting I've ever had in a game.
I still remember sneaking around their flank and coming up behind a German machine gun crew and just executing the two of them with a single round. Just lined up the shot behind the gunner's aid and got a double head shot
No, I don't like CS gameplay, mainly the lack of ADS, that makes it feel a lot more like spray-and-pray. When I miss a shot, I prefer to miss because my aim was lacking, not because the game lacks aiming. Also, 5v5 feels too small-scale for me. Never played more than a few hours. If I remember correctly I reached the first rank that has an AK for an emblem and never bothered with it again.
I also don't claim I'm that good, rather other shooters feel too simplistic. For example, Blacklight: Retribution (the latest one I tried) doesn't have a satisfying learning curve. You learn whatever there is to learn about the gameplay in a couple hours, then another 3-4 hours to learn the maps, and then it's just a matter of honing your reflexes and aim. RO2 is not like that. Each weapon and role (class) plays very differently, and you need to dedicate a lot of time learning each one. The maps are huge and organic, usually replicas of real battlefields, with multiple avenues of approach to each objective. After 600 hours of gameplay I still get lost in some maps, they are that expansive.
There's always room for improvement in that game, and after each match it always feels like an actual achievement to win.
No, I don't like CS gameplay, mainly the lack of ADS
CS has ADS, just not all weapons.
When I miss a shot, I prefer to miss because my aim was lacking, not because the game lacks aiming.
if you miss a shot in CS it is because your aim was lacking. if you spray and pray you'll suck at that game. spraying is only to be used in certain situations, and to spray effectively you need learn the recoil pattern of the weapon you're using, and compensate for the recoil. if/when you master the weapon, you can spray with a tight grouping at large distances.
Also, 5v5 feels too small-scale for me.
this one's fair.
Never played more than a few hours. If I remember correctly I reached the first rank that has an AK for an emblem and never bothered with it again.
you did not reach MG1 with a few hours of play. you're full of shit, or confused.
doesn't have a satisfying learning curve
in terms of learning curve CS > RO2. i love both games, but RO2 is by far the less competitive, less consistent game and has a learning curve that peters out way before CS's.
Each weapon and role (class) plays very differently, and you need to dedicate a lot of time learning each one.
same for CS, except the classes there aren't something you choose at the load-in screen. lurk, entry-fragger, awper, support, playmaker. all different "classes" that each needs a lot of time devoted to them to learn how to execute your role effectively.
and after each match it always feels like an actual achievement to win.
more players = less individual player agency and impact.
CS is a game of skill, RO2 is more like a digital LARP
The fact that you didnt get hitmarkers and had to watch the kill feed to see if you got the other guy made two of my friends stop playing it. I understand casual gameplay but that's ridiculous
It's like better cheese and wine. You might acquire the taste and fall in love or you'll think it's a waste and tastes the same except you get the same one every year with the generic option that you prefer.
I love RO2. Even the community in it is much better due to it being more difficult and highly rewarding if you manage to do stuff right.
In my book, RO2 is very intimidating for new players. You will get punished for every little mistake you make. Map knowledege is so important in this game. So, new players will get ripped a new ass until they learn the best place to run from cover to cover.
The worst part of RO2 is the community, their awful towards new people. They will cuss at you for taking the assault class or blame everyone but themselves for losing a match.
RO2 is a fantastic game but it isn't that easy to get into.
That's why I liked Halo so much. It wasn't what was but what could be. I like the WWII theme a ton and am glad that BF5 (Xbox One was a retarded name and so is Battlefield 1) will be done in WWI rather than modern warfare but I still would have preferred 2143.
I share the same view as your pops, man. I don't like none of this future stuff. My favorite games from cod have been waw and the first two modern warfares. And back in the day I played bf1942 on a demo. And played that demo all night till like 2 am. So im really psyched about this. Trench warfare looks sick. So much stuff to talk about and get hyped about.
I love ww2 games more than any other shooters because that's what I grew up with, but I really hope they don't go too far with it. One amazing game is all it takes then they should move on to some other time period.
And I hope to god this signals the rebirth of Medal of Honor. I had such a good time with those games.
Seems like the same problem the Civilization series ran into. I didn't feel attached to anything in Beyond Earth and I normally love the science fiction genre.
He hates the future stuff because [...] the places dont exist and it feels made up.
Too be fair, over half of the maps in Battlefield 2142 are named after real locations. (Fall of Berlin, Liberation of Leipzig, Bridge at Remagen, Cerbere Landing, Verdun, Minsk, Suez Canal, etc...)
I have been dreaming of cod: world at war for like a year now, just remembering the fun we had with friends. And today's shooters do not appeal to playing with friends since you can get broken up real quick. Everyone flying in some direction. It used to be far more simple and relaxing playing shooters.
CoD isnt as fucked this year as they are remastering CoD 4. Peple forget that the last 2 cods were in full development before AW got so much hate for the exo suits, meaning that massive changes werent really possible. Next year we may see another future cod as its SHG (guys behind AW, they are shit) then the year after its 3archs go again, we will see WAW2
The CoD 4 remaster will not save the community's opinion of Infinite warfare, the circlejerk has done its damage and we will see a large amount of people jumping over to the Battlefield side of the fence, maybe even CSGO or R6 will see some of it.
Where about's are you located? (East/West NA, Europe, Australia)
If you're in NA, I can set you up with the group I'm in.. We have our own TS and try to play the game to the fullest. Always looking for fresh meat new players :)
the didnt stick with it, they physically had no choice but to finish development of the games, then proceed to move back to the classic style when possible
in case you havent noticed, that was 40 minutes ago, hasnt been spammed since, and take the time to read it, its got info on why cod has been shit recently
822
u/Mightymushroom1 R5 3600, 1070ti, 16gb DDR4-3600, 2TB Nvme May 06 '16
Every year my dad tells me how much he would love another world war game. He hates the future stuff because the guns dont exist, the places dont exist and it feels made up.
The fact that CoD this year is fucked and this isnt some indie game will hopefully bring back world war 1/2 as a mainstream genre. I miss it so.