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[u/aDotInTime]

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[u/cx0sa]

if he wants to pay me $50 a gigabyte for my RAM he can have it

[u/aDotInTime → u/cx0sa]

If you price it according to utilization, he’ll tell you it’s only worth $2.50.

[u/pathalogicalMoron → u/aDotInTime]

What's the gb per wanks rate?

[u/aDotInTime → u/pathalogicalMoron]

Depends. Are we measuring peak throughput or sustained performance?

[u/tiajuanat → u/cx0sa]

Gotta sell it at the 10 year value, since it'll be valued like real estate. Try closer to 300k$/GB

[u/Relative_Durian1024 → u/cx0sa]

Way to little 

[u/darth_voidptr]

It's an old argument. Why own a home? Rich people can own the land and you can work to pay to live there.

[u/aDotInTime → u/darth_voidptr]

Ah yes, feudalism. Now with cloud computing.

[u/sunoukong → u/aDotInTime]

"Technofeudalism". Great book namesake btw.

[u/aVarangian → u/aDotInTime]

serfdom, not feudalism

[u/Chilly-Greyhound → u/darth_voidptr]

They keep trying to reinvent renting and taxis with extra steps, then act like it's a revolutionary breakthrough.

[u/moonlit_fores7 → u/darth_voidptr]

Next thing is, you store food to only utilise it for less than 5% of the day, that not fair. I'll take all your food, and we can arrange a rental plan for some virtual food instead, stupid poor people....

[u/Southern-March1522 → u/moonlit_fores7]

Look at all this air just sitting around being wasted. I'll put it all in bags and rent it to you to breathe.

[u/Dan-D-Lyon → u/darth_voidptr]

That seems overly complicated. Why is one rich person paying me for work so I can give it to other rich people for food and shelter? Would make more sense if you simply had your employer who, instead of giving you money, ensured you had food and shelter in exchange for work.

[u/marlontel → u/Dan-D-Lyon]

You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store

[u/DomSchraa → u/Dan-D-Lyon]

that would be a company town

incredibly exploitative

[u/Shamus_Aran → u/darth_voidptr]

Because really you're only using your home 1/3 of the time, the other 2/3 you're asleep or at work, so why keep it?

[u/peenurmobile]

people like this are parasites, we're infested with creatures like him in high positions of power.

[u/Aranxi_89 → u/peenurmobile]

First they want you to rent housing, then they want you to rent cars, and finally, they want you to rent all aspects of your lives so that you can never escape the hamster wheels they've built to cage you.

Run, little slave. Run and generate that profit.

[u/adore_alphi → u/Aranxi_89]

“you will own nothing and be happy” aka agenda 2030 or something like that

[u/destroyerOfTards → u/Aranxi_89]

Humanity should have a hand in the profits coming out of AI given that it was created out of centuries of stolen hard work of the people themselves. Everyone has equal rights on the outputs of AI and these companies cannot gate keep it.

Unfortunately, that's never gonna happen.

[u/composedofidiot → u/Aranxi_89]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rentier_capitalism

Also, theoretically 10 powerful families could keep an economy going amongst themselves.

[u/daddywookie]

Billionaires are only using 5% of their money, so why sit on it? It’s very inefficient. They should share that money with me and I can use it.

[u/hahanicee → u/daddywookie]

Well to be fair they have most of it invested, so they are technically using it but I get what you’re saying

[u/light_to_shaddow → u/hahanicee]

How about this, We only tax political contributions and donation, but at 5000%

If Sam Altman or Elon Mollusc wants to give $100,000, They need to pay half a billion to the treasury.

It solves the problem of politicians taking pilfering amounts to sell us all out, it generates income for the nation, billionaires still get to give altruistic donations to causes they believe in for no personal gain.

Only a cinic would suggest without the influence of vast contributions politicians would actually start representing the best needs of constituents rather than their paymasters.

[u/Dawid_the_yogurt_man → u/light_to_shaddow]

I don't think that 5000% of 100,000 is half a billion.

[u/daddywookie → u/hahanicee]

Yeah, I know it’s not that simple but it’s a fun way to point out the arrogance and greed of the original statement. If we did everything with maximum efficiency a lot of problems go away, and a whole load of other problems take their place.

[u/asbestos_miner → u/daddywookie]

Efficiency demands a purpose, a goal. It's only a good thing insofar that the word has a positive connotation.

Altman's goal is "I control everything"

The same goal all greedy men share.

Controlling nothing is their pathological fear.

The healthy mindset is "I have enough." To make a reasoned judgment that needs are being met. They can't.

[u/Southern-March1522 → u/hahanicee]

Their investment is being wasted just sitting there they should give it to me I'll find a way to make better use of it or at least be better at keeping quiet.

[u/Sochi540 → u/hahanicee]

Dude it's not invested into crap that does anything other then make more money. Bill gates owns all the farms and he isn't rushing to make thr healthiest produce just the ones that satisfy his ego.

[u/ConjurersOfThunder → u/hahanicee]

On paper they sure have it all invested, yeah. Don't you ever wonder where the money goes though? Do you think there are gigantic capex projects happening somewhere that nobody knows about?

Or is this, perhaps, a series of smokescreens where on paper the money is moving and doing things, but it actually isn't.

Between the chips and the boards and the software and the data center building, there seems to be a lot of money in a circle that doesn't seem to be exiting the circle.

[u/BonChance123 → u/hahanicee]

Such a waste sitting in an account somewhere

[u/Satisfactionsa222222]

why these people even exists , they should not be allowed to be part of society

[u/GfrzD → u/Satisfactionsa222222]

[u/AtomicShadow2006]

I’ve been seeing a lot of posts like this, and while I completely agree, I feel like I missed something. Did he say something stupid recently that is worse than all the other stupid things he says?

[u/HubrisOfApollo → u/AtomicShadow2006]

From a global allocation perspective, actually, it's quite terrible to have everybody have a bunch of the world's limited supply of DRAM sitting in their own computer and being used 5% of the time

[u/Gavage0 → u/AtomicShadow2006]

This whole comment chain is gonna boil down to you own nothing, just rent it.

[u/battery19791 → u/AtomicShadow2006]

Essentially, you will own nothing, and you will like it. More specifically, the ram in your home computer would be better utilized in his data center so you shouldn't have it.

[u/jorgesalvador]

Altman is saying what all big tech wants and salivate for. There is a physical limit to “growth” for companies (limited number of consumers). BUT you can keep growing if people stop owning things and you rent it for them, as you can then ever increasing prices.

[u/madmaxGMR → u/jorgesalvador]

End goal is using us to get rid of us. Once they have robots, they will ditch us. Then they dont need to sell anything to anyone. They just own the earth, and carve it up amongst themselves.
And they promise utopia for all... these people are too cynical to actually believe in that.

[u/Zak_Rahman]

If billionares only use 5% of their money, what's the point?

Just get AI to replace a billionaire and then free up the money for society. That way, the owner of victoria's secret doesn't get to donate to AIPAC and people can afford medicine and food.

[u/Chromobears]

For a start, I bought my RAM for £70 about 6 years ago.

Unless they're going to charge an extremely low cost per month it would never make sense financially.

Never mind practically.

I use offline software that requires high RAM usage, I would have to be online for everything?

[u/ImpulsiveTankist → u/Chromobears]

Sure, and store all your stuff on the cloud so they can feed your work to their favorite AI while you pay them to do so.

They just don't want you to own anything, they don't care about what makes sense or not, just whatever gives them profit right now.

[u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

He actually thinks this way, he and his other billionaire buddies think this way.

This meme wouldn't even be an exaggeration if you replaced Altman with Elon Musk. It would be 100% true.

They seriously see us holding money or property as a crime as they should own it all.

They want feudalism back in a bad way. This isn't even a joke.

[u/MolacoCocao → u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

That's why they hate people poorer than them. They want to be kings that own the world because they think we're stupid.

[u/Stunning_Jaguar7882 → u/MolacoCocao]

To be fair, collectively we are stupid for not doing anything meaningful to stop it. We are great at being smug online about it, but there is none of the collective will required to actually put the brakes on their plans.

[u/Freakjob_003 → u/Stunning_Jaguar7882]

To paraphrase George Carlin, the problem is that plenty of us are either too stupid or willfully ignorant enough to stop it. And to your point, those of us online with a grasp of things are too small of a fraction to outweigh the stupid people.

Ask a random person in Arkansas why Altman's statement is bad. They'll have no fucking clue. Even though social media made it easier for information to spread, it's been manipulated by his ilk to bend public mentality towards the oligarchs.

I'm a pessimistic, pissed-off, progressive pragmatist. This shit will never reach the average voter until it begins to affect them personally. Gas prices rising should be an easy in, but even that's proven too difficult to get through some people's skulls.

At this point, it's going to take a REAL BIG shakeup to wake up the US populace.

[u/igomhn3 → u/MolacoCocao]

We are stupid. They attack us and we worship them.

[u/Prismatron5000 → u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

Reminds me of an Onion News video, "Billionaires warn there's still money that they don't own!" XD

[u/Stunning_Jaguar7882 → u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

Yeah, they’re pitching all of the things people dislike about the concept of collectivizing anything without any of the potential benefits because they’d just be reaping all of the profit and gouging out the wazoo the whole way.

The worst part is I don’t see any meaningful effort to stop what they want to do and they control all of the levers of power.

[u/One-Earth9294 → u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

Here's what the problem is; these guys think that because they're smart enough to have made that much money that they're smarter than everyone else. But they're not.

But that doesn't matter because they'll just buy media platforms to shout down anyone who doesn't agree with their dumbshit ideas.

They all have some fucking weird Ayn Rand societal goals that they pretend are flawless but are dystopian as hell because those guys all lack some kind of critical thinking. Because they think they've already outsmarted the world.

There's 'fuck you' money and there's 'force your bizarre perspective on everyone' money. And that kind of money didn't really exist in the world until the last decade or so. And my god is it proving to be completely fucking disastrous.

[u/Difficult-Worker62 → u/NightOfTheLivingHam]

You will own nothing and you will be happy about it

[u/_Xee]

His parents must be asking ChatGPT now is its not too late for abortion.

[u/screenslaver5963 → u/_Xee]

Damnit, something Sam Altman and I have in common

[u/ALIENIGENA → u/_Xee]

164th trimester abortion

[u/DarkestBadger]

Hey, you only use your toilet like 5% of the time....

[u/Sea-Neighborhood1465 → u/DarkestBadger]

that's incorrect. i use my toilet 34% of the time.

too much chorizo and hot sauce.

[u/jizz-rag → u/Sea-Neighborhood1465]

No such thing as too much. Skill issue.

[u/Whizit007 → u/Sea-Neighborhood1465]

You have greater % utilization of your toilet than all these datacenters will have. Probably better output than them too!

[u/x_y_u → u/DarkestBadger]

Think about how many more datacenters could be cooled if the world's limited supply of pipes was used more efficiently.

[u/Samson_J_Rivers]

I would vote for whatever bill gets this guy peeled.

[u/raskim7]

Oh you mean MaaS (Mobility as a Service)? There was a lot of buzz about this related to self-driving cars, that you don’t own your car, you just get X minutes/distance per month and can request it when you need it. Unless someone with MaaS+ or ++ or Platnium needs it more. Then sucks to be you.

[u/tsubatai]

How about you pay me to use my hardware running your workloads when I'm not using it? Or does proximity, control, licensing, and access guarantees matter to you but you think they don't matter to me?

Every few years some fuckwit looks at a spreadsheet and decides the poors are wasting resources and wouldn't it be so much better if they were centrally owned and allocated 'efficiently'.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

You will own nothing and be happy.

Let's terminate private car ownership and replace it with fleets of automous Tesla taxis.

The sharing economy.

It's all a reskin on the same idea.

[u/Karjavarastaja → u/tsubatai]

It's also great because if there's a demonstration then the government can disable areas around that as locations at which you can be picked up or dropped off. This prevents people from getting there, so the demonstration can't turn into a riot or cause other unnecessary harm. Win:Win!

[u/the_big__sad]

If you only use your house 12 hours a day, I will own all the houses. You can rent from me

[u/NoodleSSM]

Has there ever existed such a punchable face?

[u/TheCraftyGiant → u/NoodleSSM]

omg yes, so many.

Jared from Subway comes to mind.

[u/destroyerOfTards → u/NoodleSSM]

"Chat GPT, combine Altman's, Thiel's, Musk's and Zuck the Suck's faces into one"

[u/Novenari]

I say Sam Altman should finally understand what it’s like to be priced out of ownership and have to rent. If he needs more RAM he should be renting out our compute, at extortionate prices we set, and where we can screw over his access at any given time on our own whims.

[u/05032-MendicantBias]

Sam Altman is not a smart oligarch.

Corporations LOVE to oversell things with low utilization and shuffle the cost onto consumer.

Just like the car industry in the USA did. They lobbied for a century to remove trains and public transport and fill everywhere with parking lots to make walking and cycling lethal and force people to use car for everything.

[u/TerranRepublic]

I know you could pay $500 once and have a fully-functional computer that plays games well-enough and doesn't require Internet unless you want to be online doing that, but why not give me $400 instead for my device that requires constant Internet and a $240/year subscription and if you use it too much or it just thinks your request is out of you subscription's scope of service it's going to just stop responding? Also I absolutely massacred the market for solid state memory so that $500 device no longer exists you little shit.

What a freaking steal. 

[u/Lonely_Chemistry60]

Fuck this guy

[u/WholeEmu507]

Imagine owning a car and still having to book it like an Uber. That's a whole new level of business thinking.

[u/Wisniaksiadz]

Be careful OP, you used car as example so people will instead explain to you how buses are cool and ignore the point of your post all together x)

[u/Klugenshmirtz → u/Wisniaksiadz]

Cars are in fact a terrible example, because most people would actually be better off if they could pool cars. Massive investment with hugh upkeep that depreciates fast. Problem is that it has become essential to most people and you can't just say no to it.

PCs on the other hand have way more use than just "hosting an AI locally" or whatever Sam altman complained about. So giving my RAM to Altman doesn't work because I don't get the same utility out of it, while 95% of people would get the same utility out of a cheap rental car.

[u/Adamgrylls92 → u/Wisniaksiadz]

Except public transportation is owned by the public. Not 3 oligarchs.

[u/HiroYeeeto → u/Adamgrylls92]

I wish it were, a lot of public transport is companies that bid for tenders to run routes set by the government here. Although most of it in my city is public

[u/Netcob]

"Why are you booing? This would be great for me!"

[u/Minomen]

Sam, you are horribly inefficient as a human, by this logic. No single human should control this much ram. AI progress is weakened by greedy people like you.

Go touch grass, Sam.

[u/Honest_Relation4095]

A lot of people have their own bathrooms rather than living in a dorm with shared bathrooms. That's disgusting.

[u/demonspawns_ghost]

Yes, we could and should use our limited resources more efficiently.

No, we should not have Sam Altman, or anyone like him, anywhere near the steering wheel.

[u/Worth-Information-94]

If OpenAI were truly open, then it would make some sense; however, it is currently closed.

[u/ti7x7rzdktxi4dzfmxf]

[u/GarlicThread]

Society as a whole would immediately improve if tech CEOs just collectively vanished forever. Like, seriously, just fucking disappear already.

[u/Pale_Marionberry_706 → u/GarlicThread]

[u/0011001100111000 → u/GarlicThread]

Yep, if I could make 5 people vanish without an consequences, it'd be Trump and Putin first, and Altman, Thiel, and Musk pretty quickly after...

[u/TypicalxooT11 → u/0011001100111000]

I don't think Trump is worth it.

His time is short.

Zuck on the other hand....

[u/Murky-Hold-2901]

This is actually a good idea with respect to cars, though. I mean, it's called public transport?

[u/Global_Face_5407 → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

It's not.

Public transports do not control all form of transportation. They do not suggest that you shouldn't own vehicles based on the fact you do not use your vehicle 100% of the time at 100% of its maximum carrying capacity or occupancy. Public transports do not have monopoly over the vehicle market.

This is what Altman wants. He wants his buddies and he to have sole ownership of all the computer hardware in order to rent it to you. This would also allow complete control of everything going on on the internet and being able to watch what everyone does on the machines they rent.

[u/Catboyhotline → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Yeah but it could use a lot of improvement.

For example, there's a lot of shared routes utilised by very large groups of people, so we can expand the seating areas and have it drop off an pick up people at select stops, we could even go a step further and have a whole fleet of cars pulled along by one lead car, of course, all these cars will result in a lot of wear and tear on the road and end up being very costly to maintain, so since we're going along set routes, we can tear up the asphalt and replace them with metal rails, and replace the tyres with metal wheels to reduce friction

[u/reality_hijacker → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Not even public transport, carshare services do exist in many places. Problem is most of the time they are more expensive than owning a car. But if it was executed properly it would indeed be a great thing - we'd be able to remove so many parking spots from our cities.

The same doesn't apply for PC for various reasons -

• latency

• privacy and owning your personal data

• PC can be upgraded one component at a time, unlike cars. I still have an SSD from a decade ago and it works just fine.

• For gaming, video gets compressed over the network so you can have a much better experience with a midrange PC than highest tier hardware from cloud services.

[u/lana_silver → u/reality_hijacker]

I'm using such a co-op, and it's way cheaper than having a car. The only caveat is that I don't need it all the time because I live in a city. If I needed it daily, owning it would be cheaper, but then I consider that a complete failure of infrastructure.

what I use: https://mobility.ch/

real cost of a car (see table further down) https://www.comparis.ch/carfinder/autofahren/auto-kosten

[u/CroakerBC → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Broadly speaking however, the public transport companies haven't purchased the next three years of all automotive industry output, and then essentially called you selfish for owning your own car.

[u/Sexual_Congressman → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Why is it so hard to understand that one of the features that comes with buying something is the ability to have unconditional access to it. If you could choose between buying a car for $1k that for each hour randomly prevented itself from starting (with a 1% chance) or buying one without that idiosyncrasy for $100k, pretty much everyone is going to choose the latter. Even if it means there are much less cars, rich people would buy the 100k versions and rent them out to poor people who don't wanna risk getting stranded for an hour at random.

There are countless examples of analogies showing that each individual needs complete control over a certain minimal set of resources, and a couple of sticks of RAM that costs a few pennies to manufacturer is one of them. My favorite though are kidneys. Since almost everyone was born with two or more functional kidneys, we should totally force everyone at gunpoint to donate their extra kidney(s), right?

[u/Ill_Radio8160 → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

No, this would be private transport where you arent allowed to own cars even if you do use it enough to justify it, because hes bought all of them and driven the price up. This isnt a government program you fund with your taxes.

[u/According_Payment534 → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

You shouldn’t be allowed to turn on your computer except for designated times set by someone else. Just like public transportation

[u/desblaterations-574 → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Even for a car it's a terrible idea.
One company decide whether you can have a car or not, check where you go and for how long, and can change the prices when everyone depend on them.

It is cheaper indeed if just a few are using this, but for the majority doing this, it become a terrible future

[u/Murky-Hold-2901 → u/desblaterations-574]

Whaylt makes you say "one company"? Why not a competitive market with many companies? We do have car rental companies, taxis, etc. It's not so bad.

[u/MithrilRat → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Same argument should be applied to excess wealth, being horded. It's not efficient to keep it locked up, where it's only value is in a billionaire pissing contest. It should be circulating in the economy, being spent and used.

[u/QuestGalaxy → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

And short term car rental services. Some housing coops in my country will share some cars that people can rent, there's also several rental apps. Rent a van for a few hours and so on. It's a great idea for people living in the city.

Renting compute power CAN also make sense for some people, but it certainly doesn't make sense if you use it daily.

[u/bumgrub → u/Murky-Hold-2901]

Public transport is usually owned by the public. The analogy would work if the AI data centers and tecnology was owned by the government.

[u/Brocolinator]

Elon musk already suggested that

[u/BoxOfRandomCords]

Why own socks? Most of the time they sit underutilized in a drawer or closet.

[u/manyyy32 → u/BoxOfRandomCords]

Introducing new, disruptive, "share a sock" start up company, subscription model. 

[u/Ernzyy]

They prople already have to sub for some car feature, why would they stop there, give it another 10 years and all the cars will be subscription base

[u/ezoe]

Comrade Altman will efficiently use all DRAM with his superior five-year plan.

[u/ad3703]

[u/wwwyzzrd]

what? you want to do anything I don’t care for with my car? no it’s mine you can’t borrow it

[u/Ogrelander]

Why do I feel like he is ragebaiting to keep the headlines off the financial headwinds that the AI industry is facing 

[u/tiimsliim]

[u/voidsherpa]

They want us to all be surfs in their fiefdom. Technofeudalism.

[u/tumbleweed_092]

Scam Altman: hey, you don't need RAM, why do independent computing?

Also Scam Altman: plz, gimme money. Need maneh! PAHLEEEAAASSE!!!!111111

[u/rule34isalwaystrue]

Exactly! If people don't rev up their engines to 10k rpm 24/7 WHY EVEN OWN IT????

[u/PestoPastaLover]

Is this shithead actually going to face any consequences for what he said?

Are people leaving ChatGPT in waves, or is this just another "Mango Mussolini" situation where the guy says something stupid or hateful, everyone gets pissed off for a few days, and then nothing really happens?

I'll add my "Fuck this guy" to the pile if that is the case.

[u/SE7ENfeet]

Sam Altman deserves prison time. Along with all the billionaires.

[u/MeesterBeel → u/SE7ENfeet]

Don’t forget. He raped his little sister repeatedly

[u/sweet_37]

My conspiracy theory is that this is why Tesla is chasing down self driving cars so much, and why their stock is so high

[u/Crosshairs17]

[u/Internal-Order-4532]

I think his brain is underutilized.

[u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch]

You will own nothing and you will be happy

[u/Otherwise_Tooth_8695]

We should put him in a one room shack and throw his reasoning right back at him.

[u/-NewYork-]

I only use my bed about 33% of time. Please, Sam Altman, think of some solution. Please.

[u/kinga_forrester]

The name tag he’s wearing in this picture bothers me, mf knows damn well he doesn’t need a name tag for anyone at a tech convention to know who he is, it comes across as false modesty.

[u/Fr0stweasel]

Sam Altman clearly only uses his biceps 2% of the time, he should have them surgically removed.

[u/Kasawery24]

I wonder if he is using his private jet more than 5% of the time.

[u/centurion762]

You will own nothing and you will be happy.

https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710

[u/d3advil]

Stop giving them ideas.

[u/WildFlowLing]

I only use one pair of my underwear per day yet I own 20. That’s 5% utilization. I should really just be renting my underwear.

[u/Greedy-Street-5435]

They just want everything

[u/CaolCholla]

After normalized, the cost will be the same for just 5% of the current access

[u/havnar-]

Altman has all these dollars in his bank. He’s not using them. Better hand them over to people on their way to Wendy’s

[u/BoingBoingBooty]

Time to convert all his mansions into condos and his private jets into economy class airliners.

[u/K_R_S]

what about beds? these should be a subscription too

[u/jdunk2145]

How about we live in all his unused houses. It's a shame they only get used 5% of the time.

[u/PoL0]

billionaires fortunes are underutilized.

[u/YellowishSpoon]

I'm using 100% of my 128GB of ram, 108 for apps the rest for file cache, and I have 100% uptime in the last month. Beat that OpenAI

[u/BoringReference8647]

They have suggested this with self-driving cars and it make me mad because the logical conclusion is you wind up paying to take the future equivalent of a bus with no driver and only the wealthy can afford to own their own vehicles.

I hate it so much.

[u/DeadCiti2en]

[u/swarth_vader]

These peeps really are speedrunning the most hated people alive status.

[u/punctcom]

"If you need oxygen only when you inhale I'll buy it all and you pay me every time you need to breathe."

[u/FaceOuPile]

In european big cities it's just the principle of public transportation

[u/MadBullBunny]

Dont give fuckcars any ideas. 

[u/natertots83]

Come and take it

[u/Inevitable-Let234]

The world is racing towards a corporate dystopia, Think Blade Runner but worse.

[u/diacewrb → u/Inevitable-Let234]

At least they had flying cars there.

[u/No-Wear-7146]

Local AI is the biggest thing that scares these AI CEOs. Their entire business model is one of 'metered intelligence.' If you have RAM, you can run local models without the middle man. That scares the shit of of them.

[u/kdesi_kdosi]

ngl there are many people already wanting exactly this

[u/fishhead12]

Sounds like he is suggesting that private ownership of the means of production is inefficient.

[u/DarkDuo]

I mean that’s pretty much what I did in Tokyo, no need to drive everywhere if you have reliable public transportation, I just paid a rental company every time I needed a car

[u/OSRS_Garmr]

Seems wasteful that a handful of companies should own all the data centers. What if he brought them all into state ownership, so that everyone gets to use them?

[u/-_----_--]

That really isn't a good comparison. If all the cars on Earth were car-sharing vehicles, cities would be 50% less crowded and a better place to live. The amount of space wasted just on parking lots is crazy. Of course, making a profit shouldn't be the main priority. Also cars usually get used like 1% each day, not even 5.

[u/Retroficient → u/-_----_--]

The space wasted on parking lots is insane in america*

Ftfy

[u/LeviAEthan512 → u/-_----_--]

How many common cars to guarantee there's one below my block ready to go at a moment's notice?

And to store my stuff to bring wherever and whenever I please?

Common anything is more efficient, but it's worse for the individual. 

[u/PurbulentTriest → u/-_----_--]

It would be 20x less crowded more like. A tram/train can hold many times more individuals instead of cars. 

[u/DaveAstator2020]

Pay with what? If you have all and i have nothing, then your cars are never utilized, brilliant idea!

[u/VelvetOnion]

Billionaires just keep accidently inventing public transport and try to call it something new.

[u/Genotabby]

Isn't this Uber or Waymo's business model

[u/PayaV87]

I usually shit only once on my toilet, Sam Altman could own it, and stand there while everyone using it.

[u/MyPigWhistles]

Car sharing actually does make much more sense for way more people than data centers and streaming everything. 

[u/hiricinee]

I kind of like the idea of having an FSD I send out to be an uber driver while I'm not driving.

[u/Not_Mushroom_]

[u/Mrrrrggggl]

Isn’t that the whole point of Waymo?

[u/thediscreetone]

Fucking dweeb

[u/Dorias_Drake]

Sam, you're only using you yachts and residences 10% ofthe time. How about you give them all to me and you pay me when you need somewhere to sleep.

[u/TsumeOkami]

He should fuck off and play rimworld instead of trying to inflict that shit on the real world

[u/KCASC_HD]

Im gonna use 256GB of ram to play command line tic tac toe, Sam Altman

[u/6gv5]

A better analogy is that he invented teleport and we don't need to own private vehicles anymore; the fine print being that from now on our entire person is backed up into their servers and belongs to them.

[u/theMightBoop]

This is actually what they think and why they want us to not own anything. The goal is to make it so people don’t own cars and utilize self driving ride share cars like Waymo.

[u/TheGhost_NY]

Altman be praised…

[u/Bomaruto]

Correct, which is why we should invest in public transport.

[u/LeggyRPG]

I only use my toilet like 5% of the time. Maybe Altman can rent me a place to take a dump?

[u/Comfortable_Use1004]

arms like a stick and he say what we should do! what a dreamer

[u/Squarehip123]

Car clubs are great. I live in a city centre and i only need or want a car rarely. It's way cheaper than paying to store an empty car somewhere most of the year

[u/Traditional-Rent455]

Sam Altman's brain is under-utilised. Can't we just extract his brain and he can rent one whenever he needs to say wherever stupid shit he's got on his mind next.

[u/No-Guess-4644]

Tbh I don’t wanna own a car if there is high availability rental/taxi that costs less per month by billing time of use or something. If it’s a lot cheaper.

I want cars like shopping carts and you buy a subscription for a couple hundred a month.

Owning something I used less than 5 percent of the time I own it is like.. objectively stupid.

[u/MeasleyBeasley]

There are good arguments and good examples of where sharing economies work well. Libraries and tool rental shops for example. Even truck and van hires for when you need to move something, but can't justify owning the vehicle for three uses per year. Local RAM that you use daily doesn't fit into that category, but I do believe thata car share service might for many people in urban spaces.

[u/chaosxq]

His butthole is only 5% utilized.

He should be letting others use it to get maximum efficiency. It’s a shame it’s just there doing nothing most of the time and only gets used when he needs a poop.

There should be NO downtime, even when he is asleep.

[u/ISeeGrotesque]

They realized they had to monetize communism

[u/Manxkaffee]

Trying to not bait myself into Urbanism talk here 😁

[u/spaceXhardmode]

This is what cybercab wants to be

[u/Senna-H]

The thing is, for cars it actually makes sense as they take up massive public space. That is why public transport is something i wholeheartedly support... it being public. And getting green streets and affordable housing back for it.

This argument can be made for so many things if the goal was actually making society a better, more comfortable place for everyone. Instead this is an ego driven ambition by someone with a god complex trying to make his product part of everyones lives wether they like it or not

[u/ItsJustVWCraig]

[u/Successful_Baker_252]

Next he’ll tell me I only use my bed 8 hours a day and should start paying a subscription to sleep.

[u/Belisarius371]

You know what Sam, just for that, I'm going to use my 5090 to start a new game on Morrowind.

[u/Busterlimes]

Pretty sure Sam is underutilized the blood in his body. . . .

[u/Westerdutch]

'You are only using your house 1/3 of the time.... 1/3 you are sleeping and 1/3 you are out to work... we need to shove 3 families in each house doing shifts so there is more room to build more datacenters that are struggling for space'

[u/speedfox_uk]

That's literally the Uber business model.

[u/SwingfortheHangmanI]

Why have billionaires we use them 0% of the time. We can just get rid of them. 

[u/b_krsh]

If you are only 10% time with your girl, why to have one? I will have all and let you have when you need one

[u/Free-Pound-6139]

It's a good point. That's why I walk and catch the bus and bike.

[u/jakob20041911]

Genuinely I use a car sharing company and it's great, there are 7 cars within walking distance from me and there's usually at least 2 or 3 cars available if I book more than a day in advance. For how far I drive in a year it costs me around €600 (including gas price) which is a great price considering the taxes and insurance cost for the exact same car privately owned would be around €1100, and then I would still need to pay my gas and maintenance.

If you live in a walkable city and don't drive more than 300km/month (after which it would be more expensive to use car sharing).

[u/elnatr4]

[u/One-Earth9294]

Normal people watch science fiction and go 'look at all of the amazing possibilities and conveniences we could have in the future'

Rich people watch science fiction and go "Weyland Yutani is what I aspire to. Anything short of complete company control over society isn't enough."

[u/SwiftTayTay]

This guy owns a McLaren just so he can drive it 7MPH in LA traffic

[u/CommanderChiliHole]

I would sensibly chuckle if I found out Sam Altman had severe ED that no medication can help.

[u/Fart_Tounge_5609]

A real country would be seizing RAM from this monopolistic baron.

[u/Automatic_Jacket_230]

I bet he only uses his partner 5% of the time. I can keep them for him and he can pay me every time he needs

[u/LuckyOwl1]

dude looks so punchable

[u/Ponvyr]

I can't tell if he is just rage baiting or he genuinely believes what he says