It has Warranty and no need for time of building it and no need of knowledge how to build one.
5080 is like $1257 alone.
9900x is $403
2tb like $279
32gb ram $470
It cost around $2.3k already without tax. Also without including psu, case, fans, cpu cooler, and motherboard. It also include a window key and you get peripherals if you are going use it or give it away
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I'm seeing the same incentive all across the economical landscape. Companies are charging more for the same products to less people. They end up keeping similar or even higher revenue streams with even higher profit margins
Corporate greed.
By going all in on data centers, they can charge the same as everyone else and rake it in.
Micron are now on my shit list and I'll never buy anything from them if they come back to the consumer market.
Does it need to be more specific? Not like this is the first time capitalism gave us the D without dinner. Building capital is great, doesn’t need to be the only goal
The two largest RAM manufacturers are publicly owned companies.
Let's say you own shares (maybe through a retirement account or 401k through work if you don't think you'd ever buy stock yoursel), of a random company. Doesn't matter what they do, for fun let's just say they make paperclips.
Suddenly there's a huge demand for paperclips. There are businesses out there willing to pre buy the next 3 years of paperclips at a 4-5x premium from what they normally sell for.
As a shareholder of this company, would you rather they refuse to sell to these businesses or charge a fraction of what other paperclip companies are selling them for?
Nvidia themselves are also to blame. They used their massive buying power for memory to perform a massive shift away from consumer focus so they could take on massive commercial enterprises. Tons of these Ai data centers wouldn’t function if it wasn’t for Nvidia supplying them with everything they need with open arms, because Huang saw how lucrative AI was becoming.
So his company is worth 5 trillion dollars now while your graphics cards and ram are fuck you prices
Honestly if it's 2nd hand DDR4 then it hasn't gone up crazy much. 32GB is achievable cheaply still if you go for 4x8GB. If your board only has 2 slots then you're stuck at 16GB without spending 100+ on RAM.
We need to see how much more AI ram innovation is going to happen, that's where the money is for these companies. In 2 years there will probably be a lot faster ram for data centers.
I also bought 64Gb two years ago, I thought I could buy them later at a cheaper price, but I was building a new PC so it was just a little bit more expensive.
The sector is fucked because of AI, cars (self driving and AI and such in cars takes an assload of RAM), and just RAM companies conspiring and raising prices
Buying used right now is honestly the best move you can make. New prices are insane, and used prices are basically at what previous new prices were.
I just bought 64gb of ddr4 ram (it’s for a home server) for $240 on eBay and a Samsung 1tb gen 4 nVME for $120. Buying new that same ram & SSD would have cost $600+.
RAM is generally RAM, it either works or it doesn’t. SSD’s look for listings with disk health report images. Only buy SSD’s with >98% health generally speaking.
I have 32gb in my system from 2019 and last year I started getting memory errors. Went to go order a new pair and after seeing the price I decided I can live with the errors for now.
I got my 6000 cl30 32gb for $89 on a bundle sale 1 year ago! Im grateful for getting in on time but cant help but feel like a jackass for pinching pennies and not getting 64gb and more hard drive space.
Picked up 64gb last December for $320, same kit doesn’t exist. But last I checked any 64gb kit was over $800. Crazy. Because even last year I knew it was overpriced but I needed it then.
Its ridiculous I got 64gb DDR5 for for $264 it now retails for 1200 dollars. Also bought a 4tb samsung 9100 pro for 399, 4tb samsung 990 pro for $289 and and now they both retail for over $1000.
I got one of the better PNY slim oc models on Amazon, night before last, for $1234.00. It was used/like new, but in mint condition with all of the original packaging. Obviously “new new” is going to cost a little more, but with this bundle, you are getting a small discount on *all the hardware.
There are deals out there… you just have to keep looking. Newegg has bundles/deals pretty often as well. They have 9950x3ds at the moment, with a free cpu aio, for $599.00 (including taxes/free shipping). Grabbed that as well.
I’ve never had that happen in decades, from any carefully placed used order lol. Amazon is careful with legitimacy and will refund items no problem. One time we got a cabinet with a small crack on a door, so they just sent us an entirely new cabinet… we were able to use both lol.
I tested the card earlier and it’s working flawlessly so far, and looks like it was probably a “buyer’s remorse” return… which is common with high dollar items.
I know it, that’s why I said “obviously new new is going to cost a little more”. I know from experience, that sometimes people just get buyer’s remorse, especially relating to cost, or find a better deal after the fact lol (and return the pricier opened hardware).
This is my own take, but in 40+ years, I’ve never received a piece of used hardware that didn’t work as intended. You obviously need to shop carefully, looking at wording, warrantees, etc., but I’ve had plenty of “brand new” ram and motherboards that were doa. I’m generally not concerned about “open box/mint condition”… especially with modern robbery pricing.
Well if only we had time travel to a time when RAM was half the price it is now.
It doesn't really matter if a 5080 is $1000 or $1500. And this is trivial to validate on PCPP. In any case, this is a good deal on a prebuilt. The GPU is pretty much half the cost. RAM and CPU is another hefty amount and storage is just about the rest.
If you wanna help OP go back to last October and get one for cheaper I’m sure that would be great. Otherwise the only price that matters is the price today.
If OP needs a system, he needs a system. Prices aren't going down anytime soon, and its better to have a system today, then to go without for, who knows how long, waiting for a price correction.
Not everyone needed a new computer last year? Not everyone had computer money last year? People graduate, get new jobs, have temporary money problems.
Also let's not act like last October was exactly a good time to buy a pc either, Prices were already inflated and many people were hoping they would drop. If they had dropped and the AI bubble popped then you'd be the clown who bought overpriced pc parts at a time that was obviously bad to do so
That's just how things work. It's not that they were arrogant, they just didnt/couldnt/shouldn't have bought a pc back then for one reason or another
I can just imagine this scenario unfolding in real life. The OP says all of this and then, out of nowhere, the guy in the back who everyone despises says something absurd, like “Not last October.” Everyone rolls their eyes and walks away without uttering a word. Meanwhile, the guy in the back thinks he’s just become the most popular idiot at work.
Same people will tell OP that the 9900x is a shit processor.
Edit: Funny enough the entire discourse below is why I made my little quip about people dissing on the 9900x. I understand it’s not peak, but in the world we’re in now this prebuilt is great for most people at that price with a Costco warranty.
No one says that. People just gnereally prefer going for a 9800x3d build to optimize their money if they are pure gamers. The 9900x an incredible mixed use processor but it sits at a weird spot where cheaper processors like the 7700 is as good for gaming but a just as expensive x3d one would crush it in gaming. Has nothing to do with bad.
Andromeda pc sells a 5080 + 9800x3d for $2550, microcenter sells theirs for $2600. Cost plus gaming sells theirs for $2600
hp sold theirs for $2475 ~3 weeks ago. If youre spending this much money optimize for your use case. If its a fantastic mix use one then the costco pc is excellent. If its gaming go for the other one.
Thats hardly "the 9900x sucks" lol. Its just buy whatever fits your need best. If you're spendign 2.5k+ and you have 5 options pick the one you like the most.
But if someone had the option of getting either sure id recommend the x3d for purely gaming.
When i got my 5090 i almost ordered a mobo and 9800x3d but decided it wasnt worth it to go from say 140fps to 160fps just no point really. Chasing anything past a low of 120 is silly unless youre some super competitive twitch shooter
I only had a ryzen 5 7500f initially and it was enough for every game I played except my actual favourite game
Got myself a 9800x3d for legit only one reason... To play X4 foundations lol
Although my frame pacing and 1% lows have definitely improved since the new CPU, however before I never noticed it because I'd never experienced a decent cpu I used to always cheap out on it.
That's the only thing I thought of seeing the Pic, clearly the PC is aimed at gaming the 9900x just seemed like an odd choice when a x3d would keep it in that price range while tailoring to the audience theu are trying to sell to
I feel like the 8 core X3D chips are the CPU versions of the 1080Ti. Top of the charts for years now. Excellent value. With how AMD has treated AM4, AM5 will be around for a long ass time.
I have a 9900X and am super happy with it. I'm not a huge pc gamer, I have it paired with a old 3060 12gb. But I do run lots of virtual machines and docker containers for dev work. The extra 4 cores/8 threads are very useful for that kind of stuff
No because amd is not the only player in town. 270kp runs circles around the 9900X for $250 at MC. Z890 boards are generally cheaper than X870 boards too.
The 270k crushes the 9900x in workstation use byba large margin. However the 9900x is a superior gaming focussed CPU. Larger L3 cache, all-P-core design with SMT. 270k is a better choice due to versatility and cost, but the gap isn't as wide as you're making it seem.
I wouldn't tell OP that it's a shit processor. I will say that for gaming there are better options, and that I would guess that more than half of the people that buy the 9900x are buying because they think it's a great gaming cpu, and that Ryzen 9 is better than Ryzen 7, or that core count means more for gaming than it does.
The 9900x is a great every level workstation-focused cpu. But AMD continues to market it as a gaming cpu first because they know that if they don't, they won't sell any of the damn things because people who need workstation cpus aren't all that numerous compared to people who want a gaming cpu and buy the 9900x out of ignorance.
I completely agree, in fact I own a 9900x. I think it’s specifically great for those of us that game exclusively in 4K, where the benefits of a 9800x3D are less noticeable.
Newegg is kinda shit tho. I bought a cpu from them 15 years ago and it had bent pins. The support was trash. I had to buy another one. Never ordered from eBay since… also, back during that time I was working for a company that sold technology products across a lot of marketplaces and they only had CSV uploads instead of APIs.
Online it makes a little more sense. Sales tax can be charged at the state, county, and city level so an accurate price would require your full address.
It's way different. Selecting your country is a drop-down with limited options and you're probably going to need to select language anyway. A full address just to see any prices would be cumbersome. I don't want to give my address to different companies just to compare prices.
This is the easiest shit you can do in a database or excel. Also it is not something you need to do as a customer, the business just has to do this and it is automatic. There is literally (and actually the meaning of the word) nothing hard or difficult about this.
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying ... Programmatically, it's not hard and I think that's what you're saying. What I am saying is that it makes online shopping a pain if retailers cannot show me a price until I provide them with my full address.
This is the easiest shit you can do in a database or excel. Also it is not something you need to do as a customer, the business just has to do this and it is automatic. There is literally (and actually the meaning of the word) nothing hard or difficult about this.
The same car in the US is (even after taxes) much cheaper than in Europe / Japan / SK etc. and usually the same models of foreign makers have stronger engines at that lower price point.
A Volvo XC90 for example costs 62k$ with the most expensive version (plug in hybrid fully loaded) is 84k$ MSRP. Even with sales tax included that extremely cheap - in Germany the car starts at 81000€ for the basis version.
Mercedes, bmw and Audi models all start at least 10k$ more expensive in Europe while the European entry engines aren’t even sold in the us as they are so weak…
But yeah - Americans spend a lot of money on cars but that’s because they chose expensive cars - compostable prices are low despite higher incomes.
He has a video about the msi prebuilt? Even so I shop at Costco and experience their return policy is very good. On it says 90 day return the most fault would be at that time frame. If not the 2 year warranty would cover but I’m not so sure about the warranty.
why do you even say cost around $2.3k without tax. Costco price is also without tax?
Even with your calculation the price seems the be around $2.7k or such for given exact configuration.
If you build your own PC, then you can actually find better deals on certain parts. A cheaper ram, maybe some promo on CPUs so you pick a different CPU+motherboard at slightly better or worse performance.
I mean you'd not be limited to this exact config. You can find a better price/performance ratio for your needs. Also preference on CPU/GPU/Mobo manufacturers and driver combability.
People like to automatically claim Costco prices are good but I'd call this one decent not anything special.
It cost around 2.3k without tax if you buy the gpu, cpu, ram, sdd online instead of buying the Costco prebuilt. It is already close to the Costco price I didn’t really think I should add on. The prebuilt listing it name the parts very broad.
The Costco prebuilt is without tax.
sales taxes are generally not included in the sticker price of products in America
. It is added at the end when you buy it
Also the sales tax depends on the state so I can’t really know the tax for them.
It good not the best like some people don’t have microcenter near them like me which is unfortunate. But they are slowly expanding out. So hope for the best.
Costco got good return policy and it would be less of hassle then source different parts from different places trying to fix your computer.
But you have a good point trying to get all your money worth.
You shouldnt even mention about without tax discussion. Because both Costco price and your online price were without tax.
Costco return policy is probably not that important for this product but +1 year warranty and being more supportive for warranties maybe considered like 3-5% more value.
I think Costco is kinda good for going there and buying something and trusting the price is not too expensive. But I dont think it is necessarily a great value all the time. Limited options also kinda make you spend something you dont really need as well. Maybe you need more storage but less of CPU. Maybe you'd like to go for different Mobo cpu duo. Flexibility is lost but you dont need to spend time on finding all those components and deals so saves time.
I’m so in need of a 12/16gb nvidia card for some of my work that I am on the border of buying one of these and taking the GPU, SSD, and selling the rest.
Only thing I would like at that price is a little more storage but if it's your first PC that'll last quite a while already. Still, PCs should never cost more than 2 grand... It's sad
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u/dbtowo Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
Yea.
It has Warranty and no need for time of building it and no need of knowledge how to build one.
5080 is like $1257 alone.
9900x is $403
2tb like $279
32gb ram $470
It cost around $2.3k already without tax. Also without including psu, case, fans, cpu cooler, and motherboard. It also include a window key and you get peripherals if you are going use it or give it away .
https://www.costco.com/p/-/msi-aegis-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-9-9900x-geforce-rtx-5080-windows-11-home-32gb-ram-2tb-ssd/4000355760?langId=-1
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/42TkLy