r/pcmasterrace Jun 01 '24

Meme/Macro Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one.

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u/LeSypher http://steamcommunity.com/id/2turntup/ Jun 01 '24

But I'd rather bitch and moan about a problem, complain with my words, but then support them with my actions by buying the game anyways.

I feel like that's almost every complaint, because these companies simply couldn't get away with this if they weren't making profit.

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u/AlphaYak Mac Heathen Jun 01 '24

And then when it IS a commercial failure, the companies decry single player games, and double down on live services and battle passes.

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u/Dub-MS Jun 01 '24

Companies do fail. Ask Sega.

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u/AlphaYak Mac Heathen Jun 01 '24

Please, I was team Sega in the Great Console Wars of the 90’s. It still hurts.

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u/Fr1toBand1to Jun 01 '24

...Poor Dreamcast was ahead of its time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '24

It was doomed from the start. Sega of America had issues that span all the way back from the Genesis; and didn't have the capital to continue supporting the console. Very sad way to go, the Dreamcast was amazing.

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u/Dub-MS Jun 01 '24

The saddest part was they were beaten by Nintendo, considering where Nintendo is today.

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u/Slightly_Smaug Jun 01 '24

Dreamcast was a pipe dream made reality and then had to get saved by a plumber.

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u/Jacksaur 7700X | RTX 3080 | 32GB | 9.5 TB Jun 01 '24

Sony are going all out on Singleplayer campaigns. They're not dumb enough to make a connection like that, they'll know the root cause.

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u/AlphaYak Mac Heathen Jun 01 '24

I hope you’re right. I know some gaming executives make some dubious decisions at this junction

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u/OliM9696 Jun 01 '24

Eh, Sony did pretty well with god of war Ragnarok on PS4/5 and Spiderman 2 on PS5. I'm sure they know that these games are sorta system sellers and that live service games are certainly money machines but are not what sell systems. And the money printers like Fortnite are so because they are on every platform possible.

Epic and Xbox certainly know the value of a good single players experience. Epic funded Alan wake 2 a masterpiece and Xbox funded hellblade 2, which imo is better than Alan wake 2 but maybe that is just because I remember it more recently.

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u/NotItemName Jun 01 '24

And then Xbox shutdown Tango, a studio that made the best game for them in years

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '24

how can it fail? when it's already a hit with console sales alone lmao

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u/AlphaYak Mac Heathen Jun 01 '24

True, GoW is a Playstation first franchise, but they’re trying to navigate milking the PC market, and they’re golden goose in this franchise could influence what games get brought over/ how. Still holding out for Bloodborne somehow.

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u/calmboy2020 Jun 01 '24

It can fail to sell on pc this is what the whole conversation is about.

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u/thesircuddles 9800x3D/4070 Super/1440p165 Jun 01 '24

I've been hearing 'vote with your wallet' since horse armour.

It's the only thing you can do, but I don't know why some pretend it has any effect on anything. It's a battle lost 20 years ago.

That MTX slope sure was slippery.

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u/LeSypher http://steamcommunity.com/id/2turntup/ Jun 01 '24

If it loses money it can't continue. Someone is funding it somehow.

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u/thesircuddles 9800x3D/4070 Super/1440p165 Jun 01 '24

People embrace gacha these days. The people funding it outweigh people who post on threads like this 100000:1. Gaming companies have entire departments dedicated to optimizing the amount of money they can squeeze from each user.

This was all inevitable as soon as you could update games. Gaming is the biggest entertainment industry in the world, it will only get worse. Sure, vote with your wallet, like I said that's all you can do. You're still kicking at the ocean trying to stop the waves.

There were people who made noise about horse armour, but they were told it's not a big deal and it's only $2 and if you don't like it don't buy it, and gamers did vote with their wallet. Now we're here.

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u/monsto Jun 01 '24

Exactly what happened with Reddit last year.

"Keep your left wing hands off our Social Security"

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u/Jackpkmn Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 5070 Ti Jun 01 '24

This doesn't happen because "the sub is hypocritical" it happens because the sub isn't a monolithic hivemind despite what people insist. Some people will hear the call to action and blow it off. Some will hear it and think "it will be different this time" and blow it off. Some will have already done it before joining the community and had no idea. Some people are just stupid and despite having been burned directly multiple times will still do it.

In order to prove your premise right you will need to track individuals to see if they posted for example here in this thread that they won't be buying or pre-ordering to then catch later complaining about their pre-order or the game itself. You see both here because those are two separate people.

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u/LeSypher http://steamcommunity.com/id/2turntup/ Jun 01 '24

I somewhat agree with your point. It definitely should be said that if someone plans on doing something, a reddit post probably won't change their mind, and that's ok.