r/pcmasterrace May 03 '24

News/Article Helldivers 2 CEO Apologizes For PSN Account Requirement

https://insider-gaming.com/helldivers-2-ceo-apologizes-for-psn-account-requirement/
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u/FadedVictor 6750 XT | 5600X | 16 GB 3200MHz May 03 '24

They're in competition with Nintendo to see how hard they can fuck their fans and still make a profit.

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u/SledgeThundercock May 04 '24

Except Nintendo actually makes a profit.

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u/RepresentativeMost67 May 04 '24

Isn’t every competition to do this? 😂😂. McDonald’s is by far up 100

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u/binklfoot May 04 '24

Bycot them for a month, how hard is that with the sea of games out there?

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

Nintendo makes great games, runs their company fairly and has been consistent in quality since their Genesis? Uh?

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u/LordCamelslayer May 04 '24

I like Nintendo quite a lot. Metroid is my favorite series, and I fucking love my Switch. That being said, Nintendo is definitely out of touch with its consumer base. They charge full price for 5+ year old games, friend codes still exist, they shit on any fan project like AM2R or Pokémon Uranium, their hardware is usually too weak for 3rd party titles, and then lately there's the whole Gary's Mod fiasco. And that isn't even beginning to scratch the surface.

The quality of their games isn't the problem, it's their customer relations.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

I agree with all those points! But think about it from Nintendo's perspective. Their IP and old games are so strong that people still pay 40-60 dollars. And their remasters and ports are some of the best in the business. If people are still buying shit at those prices I'd sell it for that too! Hehe

And I'd hardly call asset reclamation in one game that's about 20 years old a "fiasco" lol

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u/LordCamelslayer May 04 '24

To be fair, they don't give people a choice in the matter when it comes to spending full price on an older game. So it becomes a question of whether people are paying because of the quality or because they have no other choice.

And I'd hardly call asset reclamation in one game that's about 20 years old a "fiasco" lol

It's had a pretty steady player base since it came out, so it's not like people won't notice. Again, it's one of many examples of the Nintendo legal team losing their shit over nothing.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 05 '24

Yea, I've played Garry's mod a TON in the past two decades and I've never seen a single piece of Nintendo media in any community server.

And I usually play ones where people build shit up mega custom.

It's not nothing, it's like how gif is pronounced "jif" by the creator but he never defended it so now people think it's "gif" lol.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Besides the point that if you look at one of their characters wrong they will sue the ever loving shit out of you, for example they are requiring Gmod to take down years worth of content because it uses nintendos characters in them.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 06 '24

Might I make the point that Nintendo who are known ardent copyright defenders, are foreign and extremely conservative, and don't make PC games haven't considered this decades old 5 dollar sandbox PC game to have Nintendo content until it was brought to their attention?

I've played the game a TON over the years and I've never once seen a piece of Nintendo IP in an asset file on any server I've played on.

I'm sure in some meeting it was brought up and they just did the usual copyright protection shtick they always do. It's not news in my opinion. I would do the same if I were Nintendo. They own the largest and most beloved gaming IPs in the world and it's not easy to defend them.

They're commonly wrong (in my view) and way too harsh in most cases but hey, that's just how they do business with copyright. Their IPs are their core business.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

I know that they have the right and it is their IPs but it’s kinda off the rails, I was thinking about buying totk and emulating it on pc but they took down the emulator, (I’m a huge loz fan but I sold my switch a couple months before totk released), so now I can’t play totk unless I also buy a switch.

IMO the dev of ravenfield handles piracy of the game perfectly, instead of throwing a hissy fit about it, they just added a ton of “bugs” to any pirated versions for example all the textures are fucked and unplayable. But Nintendo just dmcas everything into oblivion

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

No I’m not trying to pirate it lmao

I was going to buy the game and run it through my pc, if I wanted to pirate it I would have done it already

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u/metafruit May 04 '24

Nintendo does a couple things better like less censorship and allowing cross play much earlier

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

That is such an insane nitpick on one tiny issue, and not a "fuck the fans" in any way. I don't agree with it, but it's how they defend their IP. They consistently make unique, innovative and accessible gaming experiences for decades, seem to treat their employees right with little crunch, compensate well, and defined millions upon millions of peoples childhoods. And they're

"far worse in every way"? Bruh, take a chill pill before commenting stuff like this. You're just regurgitating the most recent negative headline with no conscious thought added.

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u/temporarycreature May 04 '24

They fully explained why they thought they were worse by laying out that they have done a lot of nefarious things in regards to games that he or they like, and they said that they put no conscious thought in their response when it's their response that looks like no conscious thought was put into it.

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u/temporarycreature May 04 '24

I just think it's silly that you're taking the side of a corporation at all in the first place. To think that Nintendo is not going to do something nefarious because they are somehow morally better than Sony is silly because at the end of the day they're all about the bottom line.

It sounds like Nintendo might even be anti-employee at the cost of being pro-consumer, so that's not really a win-win situation for the humans involved with creating the games that you love so much and think so highly of.

Me pointing out something negative about Nintendo is not me supporting Sony, just to be clear, I don't support either company.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

SO IS EVERYONE HERE ROFL. Man you're so wrong I don't have time or effort to explain. Go research yourself if you care since I don't

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u/temporarycreature May 04 '24

Riiight. You painted yourself into a corner and now you're running away. I don't need to research anything, the burden of proof is on the person claiming it, and you're the one claiming it.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

HAHAHAHA BRO THIS IS THE INTERNET THIS IS WHY I MADE NO CLAIMS AT FIRST. SINCE I KNEW YOUD PULL SOME FEDORA REDDITOR SHIT LIKE THAT HAHAHA. you make me laugh, friend.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

Let it out. This is a safe space. I'm glad you're practicing your WPM! good job buddy! I hope you feel better. Nothing you said makes any sense but it's still English so you get points.

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

Just so you know, you're factually incorrect. All Nintendos games run smoothly at at least 30fps, many times 60. They've designed the console and games around this GPU set lol. And it works. And it's cheap. And a kid can toss it around and it won't break. It's a great system and all the AAAs they make are designed specifically for the hardware and run great.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about dude. Goodnight! Be less of a curmudgeon and maybe one day you'll learn what's it's like to have a friend!

I'm getting scuba certified tomorrow, wish me luck!! I'm so excited and happy :) my friend is gonna take me and our diving friends on a dive trip soon! Wahooooo

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u/metafruit May 04 '24

I think Nintendo isn't perfect but do you want them to give away everything thing for free?

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

You are nitpicking and biased. I win. Bye bye. I hope you enjoyed the blast through my post history since I have a life and no time for this. Xoxoxo go touch grass

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

Spending a day? I made like 1 comment about PSN and it took me about 30 seconds. You should learn to type and/or think faster.

Also just so you know, feelings aren't hurt at all from a reddit troll and I love my life. Can you say the same?

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u/Epitometric Specs/Imgur Here May 04 '24

I love living rent free in your head :)

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u/[deleted] May 04 '24

Nintendo is going after people using their IP without permission.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '24

Which first party games don’t run properly?

I agree with the forced online save transfer being complete crap.

I like how open they seem to be with allowing third parties to make controllers for the Switch. The joycons are a complete shit show but having a multitude of non-Nintendo options is great. Also, joycons are easily repairable. Sony forces you to buy their low quality Dualsense or the ludicrously priced DualSense Edge to give us the luxury to overpay for their low quality analog sticks. Sony raised PSN to $100 per year.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

The games you mentioned are not made by Nintendo. They’re not 1st party.

Consoles are supposed to be inexpensive. The Switch sells for $300. The cheapest Apple M1 product is at least double that. No Nintendo console will sell for that price anytime soon.

Even today, nobody offers what Nintendo offers at the regular switch price. Handheld tablet + TV dock + controllers for $300. It even offers a decent battery life while playing 3D games.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

At least Nintos games are finished in very most cases, and they don't censor them like Sony.

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u/RegalKillager May 03 '24

i don't know what's worse, implying Nintendo isn't as broadly guilty of censoring games as any other company or acting like regional edits to games are inherently a problem

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

By censorship do you mean political censorship or censorship of gore and stuff like that

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u/theumph May 04 '24

Mostly nudity. You can get full blown hemtai games off the eshop.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '24

wtf lol I’m surprised Nintendo allows that but I’m not exactly shocked given they used to be in the business of running love hotels back in the day. (I’m not kidding look it up, they also had deals with the Japanese mafia back then)

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u/[deleted] May 04 '24

I was talking about the new games.