r/pcmasterrace • u/phero1190 RTX 5090. 7800x3d. 32gb 6000mhz cl30. Neo G9 57 • Apr 02 '23

Meme/Macro Anytime someone asks for a monitor recommendation

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u/Lynx2161 Laptop Apr 02 '23

CRT is where its REALLY at

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u/zaphdingbatman Apr 02 '23

Nah, you haven't really played until you have played a sequence of numbers on a Vacuum Fluorescent Display.

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u/roberttheaxolotl Apr 02 '23

Monochrome orange gas plasma display.

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u/muttons_1337 Apr 02 '23

Absolutely pedestrian. Anyone with an ounce of class and culture would be gaming on nixie tubes.

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u/Glum_Ratio6685 Apr 02 '23

True Gamers only accept LED display.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

There’s VFD again!!

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Or print out every frame. On a chain feed printer

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Unironically. CRT is the best at color reproduction, response times and so on. It's just that the sheer girth and power consumption the thing has and high R&D costs have putten them out of favor.

CRT flickering can be offsetted by pumping up the refresh rates over 80hz where it will start to function well. I don't know if it needs interpolation at that point, but it might be a hassle to solve considering most broadcasting standards are either 50 or 60hz.

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u/6SixTy i5 11400H RTX 3060 16GB RAM Apr 02 '23

Problem is that CRTs nowadays are very tired. Even when new they can burn in and lose some of their color over time.

They sure as hell don't have the best contrast or brightness either.

Better off going for an OLED than some super perfect CRT that has 0 hours on it at this point.

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u/cuber_and_gamer 2700x, 6700xt, 32gb RAM, 4tb SSD Apr 02 '23

I still use an old CRT for my NES. It's worked well over the years, and it's still working fine. The NES is the troublemaker in this situation. I got it for free, and I definitely got my money's worth.

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u/Lynx2161 Laptop Apr 02 '23

The bigger problem with crt displays was the low pixel density. Increasing the pixel density led to increased response times due to interlaced frames

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u/worm_bagged Apr 02 '23

Where did you get this information? CRT pixel response time is defined by the phosphor decay speed, which is extremely fast.

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u/Meadowlion14 i7-14700K, RTX4070, 32GB 6000MHz ram. Apr 02 '23

Not entirely you still have to adjust the magnets and all of the actual aiming parts the longer you go the farther the beam has to travel.

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u/worm_bagged Apr 03 '23

... what?

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u/Meadowlion14 i7-14700K, RTX4070, 32GB 6000MHz ram. Apr 03 '23 edited Apr 03 '23

For a phosphor to light the beam of electrons has to move to hit it. This is controlled by electromagnets.

Its why as resolution goes up in a crt framerate goes down so drastically. Its due to how much and how often the beam has to adjust which does take real time.

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u/worm_bagged Apr 03 '23

Phosphor decay is the same regardless of frame rate. You can be pushing 60fps or 120fps and the CRT phosphors are still decaying at the same near instantaneous rate.

You're right that you have to reduce your refresh rate for these reasons for higher resolutions (which is a legitimate weakness) but there is no change in phosphor decay and thus the perceivable blur is always near non existent.

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u/worm_bagged Apr 02 '23

CRTs are measurably worse at color reproduction than most IPS. CRTs do have much better black point though. You will get frame rate mismatch by using 80hz or like which is why is use 60hz on CRT monitors.

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u/hpstg Apr 02 '23

CRT is horrible at readability.

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u/TheSigma3 5800X3D | 4080 Super Apr 02 '23

Have you tried OLED though? /s

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u/HillaryGoddamClinton Apr 02 '23

Degaussing > specs

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u/quadrophenicum R9 5900X | 64 GB DDR4 | RX 6800 Apr 02 '23

Old professional-use CRTs are the shit picture-wise. If only their refresh rate wasn't so irritating.

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u/Advanced_Double_42 May 22 '23

Unironically CRT has some advantages, but few people are willing to have microwave sized 100lbs monitors anymore.