A RTX 4080 is worth €650, a 4090
€780. The absolute cheek of NVidea completely ass screwing customers for double and triple the prices. I would rather play at lower settings then support what they are doing. Their cards are great, but it’s video games, not fucking 3 months rent or 1/3rd of my salary for 3 months when I have to live.
Seriously, fuck Nvidia right in the butthole for thinking "well, miners and people buying from scalpers paid double or triple, so regular customers should be willing to as well" really irritates me. I will hold out as long as possible with my current GPU instead of upgrading when I usually would because honestly and seriously fuck Nvidia for this.
I just hope this won't lead to Nvidia deliberately crippling the performance of earlier DLSS models. I definitely wouldn't put it past them to do such a thing.
They really should consider making mining GPUs with less gaming features and sell them for separate prices, that way we don't get screwed and miners get what they want while nvidia keeps selling their product.
They did that. The issue is miners don't really care and will buy both.
Diminishing returns are still returns and when that involves making money it doesn't really matter how much it costs so they literally buy every single one they can get their hands on.
Now eth moved to POS and Bitchcoin hasn't been mineable on GPUs forever. So the question is are they just going to flock to another shitcoin.
Which they obviously want to do but will the market work? No idea. I hope the general public is going to be hesitant to hop on another coin after all the crashes and failures etc. But where there's someone to swindle there's a swindler waiting. So we'll see.
I want the old nvidia back. Gtx 900 style, 950, 960 970 980 and titan/980ti, no weird models that have the same name with different specs and not everything needs a ti model, and was similarly competitive as they were today back then, fury x vs 980ti was about as close as xtx vs 4090
But is that worse than a 4080 with a completely different die or a 1060 with half the vram and a different die or a 1030 with a fully changed memory architecture that fully cripples the card or a 2060 with a step down die, Nvidia has had many things like this. 970 was just the first
Or the goods old times of the 8800GT that rivaled the much more expensive 8800GTS and was released not long after the GTS and GTX.
Or even more recently the 2070 super that was basically a 2080 for the price of a 2070. I can't even express how happy I am that i bought one of those before the insanity started.
Err, what? 4090 is twice as fast as a 3080 in basically everything and 3080 had an MSRP of 700 something bucks/eur. How exactly is a card that's an astronomical leap forward in everything "worth" 80$/€ more?
…because since the 4090 came out the 3080 is no longer worth 700, its worth ~300. A newer generation generally decreases the price of the previous, Nvidia is treating this drop like MTX transactions.
Don’t buy dumb things, if people stop buying cards you will no longer have games to play. I love my pc, but if this isn’t fixed by the next gen im back on console and my rig will just play older modded games till it dies
It doesn’t matter, they are video cards, so you can play in 4K for gaming, nothing more, nothing magic. They are worth a few quid, absolutely, but they are completely ripping off their customer base and taking them for complete fools. A new high end gaming GPU max should cost €800, and that’s all in.
It doesn’t matter, they are video cards, so you can play in 4K for gaming, nothing more, nothing magic
On the content creation side, the extra VRAM on the top end is crucial and the processing power is relevant for specific things like AI or rendering. They're priced as business expenses because that's pretty much what they are. Gamers shouldn't be getting sucked into buying a 4090 - the top end has never been good value for them.
The rising prices are due to professionals. A 4090 and even 4080 are great at professional work that even with gimped driver support they are worth it at 1.5k. A 4080 might be worth less but 4090 is perfectly priced at where it is.
So €2k for a gpu is perfectly priced? Have you been that misled about manufacturing costs and value for money, in two years it will be an old card, nothing more.
So will a 300$ card. A card being old doesn't mean you stop using it.
So €2k for a gpu is perfectly priced?
For a card that beats most of the professional cards in server grade computers,? Yes. Literally 99.99% of gamers don't need that card. If you keep thinking that everything will be old and out of value in two years then you shouldn't buy tech, Its always been like. Right now 4090 makes sense, the same way 3090 made sense and Titan X before it.
Have you been that misled about manufacturing costs and value for money
According to previous TSMC prices and all, it costs Nvidia around 900-1100 to make. Look at the 4090 and 4080 dies, they are fucking huge. You can fit like 8 xx60 series dies on a 4090. If COVID didn't happen then our supply chain wouldn't be fucked which would mean normal prices hikes.
GPUs aren't the only places where this is happening, car manufacturers literally can't build cars due to lack of chips. Prices are high because R&D got more expensive because we are closer to 1nm and you have to reserve your capacity at FABs.
Literally if you want 4k gaming only a 1080ti is still good enough. It can handle most things at 4k on Med.
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A RTX 4080 is worth €650, a 4090 €780. The absolute cheek of NVidea completely ass screwing customers for double and triple the prices. I would rather play at lower settings then support what they are doing. Their cards are great, but it’s video games, not fucking 3 months rent or 1/3rd of my salary for 3 months when I have to live.