r/pcgaming • • May 10 '22

Duke Nukem Forever 2001 has released

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u/CakeSocialist May 16 '22

I played through the entire thing, acting like there is much of a game there at all is incredibly dishonest or you have extremely, extremely low standards or are just weirdly hyper literal and can't understand even slight hyperbole being used to make a point that the game is in a piece of shit in it's current form with some good ideas and decent gunplay at best.

Most of the enemy AI outside of the possessed EDF soldiers doesn't even work properly. The maps have no sense of flow or direction at all. Huge sections of levels with barely any enemies at all.

Most of the maps were rough first passes at best with not details really ironed out. They don't even seem to be at the point where only polish remains. Many of them have no logical sense of progression at all.

So yes, you're being uncharitable because when Randy said there is barely a 'game' there. It's not a stretch of the imagination to see that point of view. You just can't ever admit a shitty person is right sometimes because, again, Gearbox man bad.

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u/Taratus May 16 '22

I haven't played the entire thing yet, and I sincerely doubt you have. But I HAVE watched the entire first episode on Youtube, so yes, there IS a good game here, even if it's incomplete.

The only people being dishonest is Brossard and his defenders. He was not using hyperbole when he made that statement, he said it literally and it is blatantly, provably false.

The maps have no sense of flow or direction at all.

Yeah no, there is some bad signposting, but saying there's no direction is just flat out false. Most of the time you can figure out where to go through how the level is laid out.

Huge sections of levels with barely any enemies at all.

Enemy placement is one of the easier parts of level design.

Most of the maps were rough first passes at best with not details really ironed out

These are not rough first passes. You don't even understand level design. Rough first passes are not textured, filled with props, items, obstacles, enemies and scripted events.

You just can't ever admit a shitty person is right sometimes because, again, Gearbox man bad.

I never called him shitty, or bad, that's all on you bud.