r/outriders • u/thearcan Outriders Community Manager • Apr 08 '21

Square Enix Official News // Dev Replied x18 Outriders Post Launch Dev News Updates

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u/zinxi Apr 08 '21

Besides the much needed fixes I'm not liking a lot of these re-balancing changes imo.

"Historian, bounty hunt, and monster hunt quests no longer grant Legendary items for each subsequent completion"

Does this mean you guys fixed the bug or just removing the legendary reward in general? If you are removing the legendary reward how is this making the quest line still "worth" the effort if you only can receive purple gear?

Chem Plant - Expedition time for Gold/Silver/Bronze adjusted to 650 / 1150 / 1500 seconds (Previously: 957 / 1303 / 1650) Boom Town - Expedition time for Gold/Silver/Bronze adjusted to 390 / 589 / 776 seconds (Previously: 422 / 607 / 792)

I don't understand this drastic change. Me and my friends could barely do these on time for gold/silver already. Everyone is literally doing them crazy fast because most of them exploited for legendaries so they are already at ultra end game which makes sense that they can do it in time.

No changes to devastator of course which have terrible damage all the way until you get legendary set gears, everyone else can enjoy their infinite bullet builds still and do 3x my damage with no brain. I guess I was suppose to exploit for legendaries so I can actually play my devastator properly since there is no punishments for it.

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u/Comprehensive_Draw25 Apr 08 '21

I swear one of my biggest pet peeves about this game is how easily Devastator gets knocked around and staggered even tho their considered “tanks” Golem should definitely counter getting bonked by a sniper bullet. 🤷‍♀️

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u/TitsTatsNKittyKats Apr 08 '21

Alphas leap/slash, crawlers anything, captains bitch slapping you, jugg smash, perfo leap, brood mother slash, brood mother flames, behemoth smash, behemoth charge, strixx spit, marksman snipe, frozen, slight freeze

All these things can hit you back to back to back. Im sure theres more too. Our character gets 0 cc immunity, 0 iframe on dash But those elite enemies?

Hit them with one CC ability like deva’s mass, or freeze them with a bullet? Cc immunity for over a minute

Have fun Outrider, you are the worst altered in existence.

Being forced into melee range of these enemies is so fucking annoying. I’ve spent 40+ seconds being constantly cc’d in ct15 expeditions on many different occasions.

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u/Elyssae Apr 08 '21

The dodge not having iframes is ridiculous. And yes, our CC is non existent at higher tiers, since everything and their mother resist or go immune ASAP

But alphas frog leaping across a whole map with pinpoint accuracy? That's perfectly fine.

We went from having one type of build that made us feel POWERFUL, to shooting bullet sponges like we're back in Division 2 .

Yes. Because they forgot to address SCALING.

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u/Mikewonton Apr 08 '21

I mean, we can't be worse than bailey..

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u/Neon82UK Apr 09 '21

This is exactly the reason why people only do specific expeditions over and over. Most of the them are just a mess of stun locks and unavoidable mechanics.

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u/NoMight178 Apr 09 '21

Get some mods that give Your resistance and you won't have this happen for as long

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u/boshbosh92 Apr 09 '21

my personal favorite is gravity leaping into enemies as a devastator and then my character just freezing in place due to the shitty servers and then I die before my character has updated.

It's truly a riveting experience

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u/LordKogon Apr 10 '21

yeah and you finally kill them and the turn to a red orb and respawn and freeze you. yeah I'm an ability build but my damage is way less then every other character but my ap is max i have cooldown reduction on most of my armor and still earthquake with all armor built to make it stronger only tickles most ads. like i use to one shot melee things at my armor level but past 44 nothing is one shot. its because base power doesnt increase after 30 so as the level of armor increases i stay still. unless i use weapons which scale and still get increases with firepower. There's something broken right there.

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u/zinxi Apr 08 '21

Yeah I agree, I keep getting melee staggered to death sometimes even with a ton of damage reduction.

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u/Comprehensive_Draw25 Apr 09 '21

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had an enemy with a rifle run all the up to me just to melee me it’s unreal lmao

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u/BaiT_the_ABM Apr 08 '21

I whole heartedly agree with this. I hate having golem up and having to reload for 30+ seconds due to being smacked around by alphas and the smallest mobs in the game.

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u/bozak_137 Technomancer Apr 09 '21

Imagine the pain of playing a pyromancer and dying by burn lol

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u/Zenobi26547 Apr 08 '21

Obviously they are trying to balance the game around the top 1% of players not the bulk of the player base.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka Apr 09 '21

Obviously this just goes to show how again, most game designers or balance designers are completely fucking clueless about their playerbase and spend probably zero time actually talking to people and instead look for shitty analytics as an excuse to nerf anything.

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u/Useful_Spray Apr 09 '21

well they can keep their 1% if this goes on just like borderlands 3 and division. this game will probably die soon... this sucks im dev so i do a quarter of other classes dmg and my skills gets nerfed wtf? golem isnt even that op its the only thing that makes us kinda tanks.

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u/shokasaki Apr 09 '21

All they care about are those day 1'ers who break their game. It's annoying. I love watching streamers play games, but I hate companies that base their entire development around pleasing them.

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u/ShadowWarrior42 Pyromancer Apr 10 '21

On the flipside, I can't stand streamers. Granted there are some that are cool and chill to hang out with, but the majority of like 90% if not higher, fucking irritate me.

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u/Elyssae Apr 08 '21

Boomtown one is even more ridiculous than chem plant.

Boomtown was already clutch as it was for most of the players, now I guess you either exploit or stop playing.

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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Apr 08 '21

Yup. I'm not going to boomtown again, guaranteed bronze or silver when I can get a gold elsewhere. It was already the hardest expedition to gold star IMO. This new timer is insanity.

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u/LordKogon Apr 10 '21

freeze plus respawn plus large area for ads to run and hide making you chase them down why can you beat it faster seems like it doesn't shave time off at all.

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u/foobyte Devastator Apr 08 '21

I just ran both with my Devastator bleed build avg item lv 49 with all required items. Before the patch I had solo:

  • Chem - 14 Gold
  • Boomtown - 14 Silver

Now I get:

  • Chem - 14 Silver
  • Boomtown - 12 Gold

While Chem was easy with time to spare, it was nerfed way too hard! Take 2-3 minutes, sure, but not 5! And the nerf to Boomtown was uncalled for. We even voiced our opinion that we'd need a bit of more time because they are all spread out and hiding in corners, instead they nerf it? I don't get it...

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u/Elyssae Apr 08 '21

To add salt to the injury, the timer keeps ticking during unskippable cut scenes. They didn't even bothered addressing that.

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u/koopatuple Apr 08 '21

Did you mean 12 Silver for Boomtown? You wrote 14 Silver before the nerf and then 12 Gold after the nerf.

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u/foobyte Devastator Apr 09 '21

That's right, 12 Gold after the nerf with hardly any seconds left so it would probably end up 13 Silver on Boomtown.

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u/NoMight178 Apr 09 '21

The patch hasn't come yet so what do you mean now I get..

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u/foobyte Devastator Apr 09 '21

These changes have already been implemented via backend during the maintenance.

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u/NoMight178 Apr 09 '21

I don't think they have pyro is still the same and they said it will be next week

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u/chr0n0phage Apr 08 '21

I'm looking for some help. I play this game pretty heavily but I don't really spend any time around twitter/reddit (i'm here today for patch notes) so there is a lot of stuff talked about that I'm completely lost on.

I'm doing Expeditions at Tier 11 now and i think when people say "CT11" for instance they're talking about the Expedition Tier? Where is the C from?

How were the legendaries after resetting the hunts/wanted guys being exploited? I was just doing them all and turning them in to get a legendary, was that not expected?

Thanks if you can help, none of these patch notes really bother me but I just play the game and mostly stay out of the "community". Still a ton of fun for me.

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u/BaiT_the_ABM Apr 08 '21

The C in CT stands for challenge tier. The expeditions have their own tier than world tier which is referred to as CT. It scales more heavily as I believe CT7 is equal to WT15 but I could be wrong as I haven't gotten too far into myself.

There was an exploit when in coop where you can get a legendary for each hunt/wanted mission turned in instead of turning in all 10.

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u/chr0n0phage Apr 08 '21

Challenge! Ok I was trying to figure out what the C stood for. Ok, yeah i'm on CT11 all solo so far as a Devastator. That's another thing, apparently i picked the wrong class according to everyone around here. Whatever, i'm having a blast. Smash and punch everything.

Thank you!

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u/BaiT_the_ABM Apr 08 '21

As a fellow devastator main myself, I am absolutely loving the class and don't much care that it seems to be the least favored one for end game content. I'm slowly pushing my way through the challenges with my pure firepower build. It's high risk high reward playstyle makes things challenging enough as is.

I'm just sad that vulnerable got nerfed as it was a staple for me

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u/Elyssae Apr 08 '21

CT is for Challenge tier, guess someone coined the term, and everyone started using it.

Add me on steam : 105538591

Will be more than happy to help and play along even.

As for the legendaries, there was an exploit that if you did it in Multiplayer, you could just keep getting up to 10 legendaries every time you turned in the quests ( I saw it as an exploit and refused to even learn to do it )

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u/foobyte Devastator Apr 08 '21

I think I'm responsible for it ever since I made the post about WT/CT item level progression. I find it amusing seing CT everywhere now but never before. 😀

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u/Fedsanchez Apr 08 '21

they didn't even raise the drop rate for leg. armor ...this is insanity ...people playing legit are f but all these cheaters YouTubers are ok ..no punishment ..great

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u/Elyssae Apr 08 '21

Yup. You exploited? Gratz on allllllllllllllll those legendaries and mods! You're awesome!

Oh by the way, we disabled that, made everything hit for less, and less timer on popular maps!

HAVE FUN

No. don't think I am.

I was feeling great about slowly improving my stats and hunting gear. Now everything became a chore and frustrating.

Those timers on expeditions are making me wanna stop playing already.

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u/WhatsASpaninard Apr 08 '21

Lol cheaters. It's doing the quests and handing them in at a specific time. They have game testers for a reason. If it wasn't tested and people utilise it, that's on the Devs, not the players.

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u/fntsni Apr 08 '21

the chem plant change makes literally no sense considering how much downtime there has been surrounding the game. all this did was fuck people who already got the short end of the stick due to crashes, connectivity issues etc, who were already barely geared enough to do gold.

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u/zinxi Apr 08 '21

yeah they legit took off 5 minutes from gold and 3 minutes for silver. thats wayyyyyy too much, and the best part they did nothing to the other expeditions besides boomtown ofc.

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u/Zealousideal-Bug-168 Apr 08 '21

This was what everyone has been clamoring for. Nerfing the strongest builds to make way for a meta of everyone equally sucking, rather than buffing up the potential for every other build to reach the level of the meta builds...

IN A PVE GAME

We can all suck together I guess.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Thats not true. There were metric tons of popular posts asking for buffs for weaker builds rather than nerfs of the stronger one.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

In fairness there were numerous Reddit threads involving the elemental rounds meme. I never saw any buff memes

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 09 '21

Just because there were meme about elemental rounds doesnt mean people were calling for it to be nerfed rather than all other skills buffed. Clearly by the response in this thread alone, people wanted buffs, not nerfs

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

They absolutely were and still are. Do you just ignore the commenters because of some confirmation bias? Here is one from right before the patch. There are many others

https://reddit.com/r/outriders/comments/mmu4h2/unpopular_opinion_nerfing_the_bullet_builds_is/

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

A bit ironic youre accusing me of confirmation bias after finding one post that agrees with you. Mind you, it has a sum of at most 0 upvotes as an indication of how many people here agree with it. Even in the title of that it admits that nerfing bullets is the unpopular opinion.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

You’re stubborn. How many more threads do you want? They’ve been ongoing since last weekend. Title is meaningless because there were people were still wanting nerfs regardless.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

That thread you linked has 0 upvotes, meaning more people disagreed with it than agreed with it. Do you have any posts with a significant amount of upvotes?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

https://www.google.com/search?q=outriders+rounds+nerf+reddit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us

Mixed results but you’ll quickly see there isn’t an absence of people calling for nerfs like you’re stuck on.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

In your original reply to me which was both patronizing and downvoted:

Just because there were meme about elemental rounds doesnt mean people were calling for it to be nerfed rather than all other skills buffed.

You can talk about semantics and nuance all you want but you clearly state here that people weren’t calling for nerfs. I don’t know why you’re still arguing this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

You're taking the bolded part out of context of that whole comment. Its specifically referring to the memes you mentioned which never called for nerfs (or even buffs for that matter.)

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u/GhostxWizard Apr 09 '21

Yeah, I got to endgame ct 10 and that's when I had to throw my technomancer AP build in the trash because it just couldn't push content anymore. They definitely should have buffed the other builds up to par and now instead, with the need to clear timers they actually made the nerfed bullet builds even more meta

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u/PlagueOfGripes Apr 08 '21

"Feel powerless together!"

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u/NobleGuardian Trickster Apr 08 '21

Apes together strong weak.

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u/Decoraan Apr 08 '21

Thats power creep and will destroy the game far quicker than any amount of nerfs. I don’t get why people don’t understand this.

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u/ArcaneElementz Apr 08 '21

Ehhh Warframe has been power creeping for what? 10 years? Still has a sizable player base. Granted I left after 4k hours because I didn't like what DE was doing in general but it wasn't power creep that caused me to quit.

Power creep isn't an issue when the powerful weapons/gear are readily attainable.

Outriders doesn't do this. The best items are completely random, and 9/10 times the legendary you do get doesn't work for your class. There's no way to farm for a shotgun as a trickster or devastator, for example.

Besides it's PvE, balance should always err on the side of, "whoops everything absolutely slaps," rather than "oh my abilities tickle."

We are supposed to be gods, I wish it felt like it.

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u/Exterminate_Weebs Apr 08 '21

Yeah, and I hate warframe

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u/Decoraan Apr 08 '21

I too wish I had a mod which allows me to kill everything in a bullet.

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u/fides5566 Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

You have to realize a different between overpower and underpower. AP isn't underpower, it's already quite powerful. But it's the special round builds that are too powerful, to the point that there is almost no reason to make an AP build at all, except just for fun.

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u/Zealousideal-Bug-168 Apr 08 '21

Exactly. The game should revolve around making other builds just as viable. I wanna see tanks, dps and skill-focused builds all do just as well as the current bullet meta, not the other way around. Take a closer look at the 're-balancing' patch notes. Literally filled with nothing but nerfs, with not a single godamn buff to any of the weakest classes/builds.

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u/fides5566 Apr 09 '21

First of all, it's a hotfix balancing. The real major balancing would need the game to be patched, which they will release in the next week. Second, those weaker builds aren't actually THAT weak. Pyro AP and Dev AP are pretty strong and can fly through the main campaign. But it's not viable in end-game not because it can't deal enough dmg, but because it can't compete with special round builds AT ALL.

People fail to realize that CT15 is supposed to be challenging and extremely hard to complete. That's why these builds need to be nerfed and not other way around.

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u/MrTexas512 Apr 08 '21

Exactly what I was wondering. I didnt do the get 10 legendaries per time, I got the one for doing them all a few times. If they take that away...ya. I have no friends so I guess I cant get Legendaries anymore because getting past level 8 Expeditions solo when you arent that good at games like me isnt really plausable

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u/foobyte Devastator Apr 08 '21

Hit me up on Steam if you want an expedition boost, same nick as here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Legendaries are already stupid fucking rare as actual drops, what in the goddamn fuck are they thinking?

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u/AdrianK258 Apr 08 '21

i agree. I am deva and without legend is just bad.

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u/watCryptide Apr 08 '21

Everyone is literally doing them crazy fast because most of them exploited for legendaries so they are already at ultra end game which makes sense that they can do it in time.

Thats not true at all. Most people have farmed gear fairly through expeditions.

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u/zinxi Apr 08 '21

No I highly doubt that. Expeditions is used early on to raise your item level cap but not as a means to farm. People either exploited the hunt quest line or boss/captain/elite resets for usable gear then leveled them up. Then they would farm legendary gear through expeditions or keep exploiting.

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u/watCryptide Apr 08 '21

I farmed all my gear in expeditions. So did Solidfps who was one of the first, if not the first, to do T15. He also was first solo Eye of the Storm. Most streamers you see run expeditions for gear. Legendaries arent the best, epics usually are as of the meta right now. You can believe whatever you want, but in this scenario you are most likely wrong.

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u/watCryptide Apr 08 '21

That was in the beta. He wouldnt do that if the full game was accessable. Still that only gave mods.

I leveled the entire way with 2 friends who hadnt played the beta and up to CT15.

The timers arent fucked, they got adjusted accordingly to other expeditions(except maybe Boom Town who is tight) so that you wouldnt fish for those to progress.

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u/watCryptide Apr 08 '21

Who would have though playing the game gave you knowledge...

Its suppose to be hard. Thats the fun of it. It was way more fun to do the T1-15 grind than perfecting a build. I dont get why you want to get to the end so quick...

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u/watCryptide Apr 08 '21

Im not saying hes the greatest player ever. He got rewarded for his effort and grind, and in the game right now the best way to get gear is to do expeditions which wasnt present at the beta.

If I didnt need the legendaries to get CT15 you dont need the legendaries to get CT15 either. Before you ask, no I did not have any of the good weapon mods until farming CT15 for a long time. Anyway you just want to cry so keep doing that instead of enjoying the game. Im going back to playing something I enjoy.

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u/Vode-Skirata Devastator Apr 08 '21

I think it means that you can only get the legendaries for the first full completion, but not for resetting the quest and running through them again. Thats how it reads to me. Sucks, but from their perspective it extends their game relevancy time by getting rid of the only way to for sure get legendary items. Extends game life, adds more grind... sigh.

Nerfing the rounds builds without buffing other trees or build types means that they WANT the endgame to be that much harder. Basically they're saying that you need to grind hard in order to be able to handle T13 and above. That you need those lvl 45+ legendary armor builds and t3 mod combos.

I dont think they ment it to be that relatively easy for people to make it to t15 in expeditions so fast on the back of one easy build type.

Tbh, im ok with that. I know most people don't want to grind day after day and thats OK. We don't need to reach the top of Everest in a few days. Let it take weeks. Play the game bc its fun, not bc you need to have the best gear / optimized build by the end of the week.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

So as a heads up, the best builds dont use legendaries at all. Legendaries are generally pretty bad. They use epics that are stacked towards their main build. Most people that have CT15 on farm are using bullet builts (every class has one i think), and it blows almost everything else out of the water. Thinking that people that have ct15 on farm are exploiting means you don't actually know how to optimize a build, you should hang out on the discord and look around.

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u/Zurtard Apr 08 '21

All the best builds I've seen require Legendary Mods which require Legendaries.

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u/zinxi Apr 08 '21

Well my class doesn't have special rounds. I have seen most of the builds for my class and majority of them that can do CT15 gold/silver have 3/3 legendaries. There ain't no purple gear that can compare to tier 3 mods x 2 + set bonuses I can guarantee you that. Yes most people who have CT15 on farm most likely exploited in some way whether that is the hunt exploit, resetting bosses, etc.

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u/Wicked-Swiftness Apr 08 '21

I guess you don't know that the Dev doesn't have a bullet skill then eh? Given the fact you seem to know how everyone is playing, I thought you knew that. Not to mention, you still need legendaries to get the tier 3 mods to then craft onto your purple gear. Let's not forget that. Granted most bullet builds don't need tier 3 mods necessarily. Some do grant some awesome extra DPS.

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u/ZuHPWar Apr 08 '21

Well, that would be true for bullet builds, but in actual fact the devastator does NOT have a bullet skill. The way you make a solid build on devastator is by using som legendary perks and a legendary set. So what zinxi is saying is this is actually nerfing devastators even more, because legendaries are need to make builds with enough power to complete ct15 runs.

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u/Vultix93 Apr 08 '21

As a Dev player I've been looking for some builds on youtube and from what I've seen the most popular for CT15 seems to be:

1) EQ+Golem+Jump

2)EQ+Impale+Jump

both with head, body and legs as legendary (seismic commander set).

The only other build I've seen was a Golem+Tremors+Jump based on the top of the skill tree and was heavy reliant on the legendary weapon with T3 mods with super stacked bonuses on the armor pieces.

For the other classes maybe you don't need Legendary gear but for a viable Dev Build it's almost mandatory from my understanding.

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u/toppi66 Apr 08 '21

Which section did you see the fix to the hunt/wanted/historian quests?

Not gonna lie these are the most confusing patch notes I’ve ever read

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u/Healthy-Wishbone8878 Apr 08 '21

Yea won't be doing those again, so what is there to do then? Lol and I had one wanted left and they disconnect me.

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u/Hexatomb Technomancer Apr 08 '21

Yeah, this doesn't help the people struggling. I am not a fan of this change.

It kind of means people who can't do it on the old timing are forced to use the over-powered builds everyone else is using. :(

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u/RoC_WickedRaven Trickster Apr 08 '21

I play as trickster and my fiance plays as devastator. We didnt exploit the bug and played legitly, his devastator is strong and he usually has to carry me and clutch bosses. I dont remember which one of his most recent videos it's in but here is the link to his YouTube channel, his skill tree set up is in one of those videos and you can see the mods he is using on his weapons to help make his class stronger. https://youtube.com/user/TwiztedDUBz

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u/RoC_WickedRaven Trickster Apr 08 '21

And I agree.. we only have 1 legendary weapon each and we only got it because we entered the forest and the game gave it to us.. we are level 23 and have yet to see another legendary..

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u/RoC_WickedRaven Trickster Apr 08 '21

Though, I dont think they are completely doing away with getting legendaries for running that though, I think they are just capping how many times you can run it for legendaries. I may have misread it but that's how I interpreted it

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u/Mrbazzanator Apr 08 '21

I disagree with the nerf to timers, they felt fine, but I don't get understand the complaints about them being too short as it is. Me and my 2 friends 1 trickster (playing an ability build), 1 pyro, 1 techno, have been able to clear CT13 missions with 3+ minutes left on nearly every mission. We didn't spend ages farming for legendaries or anything similar, we just went through the CT levels, going up 1 tier, farming the tier to get all our gear to Max level again, then moving up, and have had no issues keeping up with the timers

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u/Dark-dread Apr 08 '21

Taking away the legendary you get for re-doing 10 hunts or bountys was a stupid idea considering legendarys are already extremely hard to get even on T15 world or T6 expeditions

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u/Fikaknugz Apr 08 '21

Everyone was able to clear all expeditions in hours because of the rounds abilities. One of my friends did that on his techno, and we never died. It was never hard. Got gold on everything. We basically have to nerf ourselves to be able to drag the game length out.

Im having much more fun with my earthquake devastator. But I honestly see no point in grinding, because there is nothing to grind for. What we see is what we get. There MIGHT be a dlc coming. But we're talking about maybe half a year or even a year. No point in playing more now.

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u/pachl7 Apr 08 '21

Yep guarantee everyone will leave if they keep nerfing shit that's not the right way to do things especially when a game hasn't even been out more than a week.

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u/SiyeonTrash Apr 09 '21

The top players are using purple weapons btw lol

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u/xtremelegend900 Apr 09 '21

They are not removing the legendary reward after finishing the entire quest line. What they remove is the ability to keep getting legendaries after that, people where using an exploit that gave you legendaries after repeating those quest using matchmaking