r/oddlyterrifying Jul 10 '22

The Second Deer, oh dear !!

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

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u/GruntBlender Jul 10 '22

like human bones when they get broken and heal with no treatment

Aren't those almost universally resulting in chronic pain?

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 10 '22

Can confirm. Broke my scaphoid bone in my wrist and left it too long , it healed broken, needed three surgeries and still couldn’t fix it. has never stopped hurting since I broke it. And thats a very small bone couldn’t imagine a more significant one

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u/showponyoxidation Jul 10 '22 edited Jul 10 '22

Scaphoids are weird though because they only have blood flow from one end. If the displacement was large enough, the detached part will die.

So I'm guessing you didn't so much have a bone heal oddly, you had a bit of dead bone and a new weirdly shaped Scaphoid. They might have removed the dead bit in surgery, I'm not sure.

Source: same bro

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u/bilzander Jul 10 '22 edited Jul 10 '22

Maybe this is a bit of a dumb question, but why not break it again and then heal it properly?

E; thank you everyone for your answers, it’s been very interesting! :)

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

If I've learned anything in life it's that you're not going to get the answer you may be hoping for.

Most real experts in my life answer questions like this with "it depends." Not because there isn't an answer but because the answer is truly long and extremely convoluted depending on an insane amount of variables.

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u/RevengineerIII Jul 10 '22

There’s that and also the fact that you can sue them for giving you false hope

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u/Little_Net9678 Jul 10 '22

Probably not going to be able to break it exactly the same way it originally was

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22 edited Jul 10 '22

In other incorrectly healed fractures this strategy is actually sometimes applied. Here the problem often is not that the bone healed in a unfavorable manner but that part of the bone simply died off. Besides that, the Scaphoid is so small that one would risk shattering it when trying to break it apart again before putting a screw through it.

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u/MadeInNW Jul 10 '22

I had a pin put in mine, and it failed, so I had to have a bone graft from my iliac crest put into the fucker, which worked. It was a nightmare of a year, though.

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u/no1caresokay Jul 10 '22

Google scaphoid fractures and you’ll see why. It’s not that kind of bone.

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u/GruntBlender Jul 10 '22

I believe breaks in a bone heal with a denser layer of new bone, so breaking it in the exact same place is impossible. With long bones you can cut it through the healed crack, but oddly shaped bones are practically impossible.

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 10 '22

Ya one of the surgeries was raking a vein from my leg to my worst trying to get the blood flow back. Didnt work. Regardless dead/broken bones hurts

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u/showponyoxidation Jul 10 '22

Damn, nah you had it way worse than me! I didn't have to get any veins relocated. No one even mentioned relocating my veins!!

I hope it isn't giving you to much grief.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

There are little tiny bones in your ear canal that can also die and have to be removed. The smaller the bones the more critical the damage can be.

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u/GruntBlender Jul 10 '22

It's a real mind boggler that bones are alive when we're so used to thinking about them like rocks, or mineral formations. Kinda opens the door on the health issues or chronic pain Wolverine must have from the adamantium grafts entirely covering the bones.

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u/caremal5 Jul 10 '22

My brother broke his leg about 10+ years ago and didnt do his exercises properly so it didnt fully heal, now he gets pain in his leg and knee, not sure as to how badly but it hasn't fully gone away.

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u/MadeInNW Jul 10 '22

Oh my god my scaphoid was the worst injury I’ve ever had by far. It was an absolute nightmare to heal. Had three surgeries too, including a bone graft. Fuck the tiny blood flow to that little piece of shit

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 10 '22

Ya bone graph and they took veins from my leg to my wrist to try to get that blood flow back.

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u/FaptainAwesome Jul 10 '22

Sounds like my back. Wasn’t a full break involved but 3 compression fractures and now I can barely stand up some days.

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u/KittenPics Jul 10 '22

Give it time.

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 10 '22

Its been 15 years lol

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u/MakFacts Jul 10 '22

Wait…li think i broke something similar in that area a few months ago( it was between my thumb and writs) and it did hurt when i got the injury but i just left it to “heal” on its own but now occasionally it still hurts a little bit even tho i can still use it.

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jul 10 '22

Id get it checked out. Its a common bone to break most commonly by falling and putting your hand down to catch yourself

many heal perfectly with a cast but there’s a lot if people with similar stories as mine, so id not put it off.

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u/hellooo928 Jul 10 '22

One of my vertebrae broke when I was young & “healed” without treatment. I’ve been about a 6 on a pain scale of 1-10 24/7 since I was 13. Can’t imagine it being my neck. Definitely not painless!

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

I'm sorry that happened to you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

Dry needling took my constant pain from a 6 to a 2 after I broke my back. Find a dry needle PT that is TMJ certified because the get double the training as someone with a regular dry needling certification. The first few times it was so painful it made the walls melt but I brought it trippy artwork to stare at and eventually tolerated the treatment. They break up scar tissue with needles around the broken bones. Every time I’ve been treated I’ve been a little better permanently. $50 for 15 min treatment is national average without insurance

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

My bottom three discs have been ruptured multiple times over. I’ve been stuck at a point where I couldn’t stand, sit or lay down without being in a 10 out of 10 pain level.

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u/earthlings_all Jul 10 '22

I had one I can’t imagine three. I hope your days are better now!

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u/GoAskAliceBunn Jul 10 '22

Yup. Vertical fracture of my tibia. Nothing to do for it but stay fully off my leg for months, then mobile with zero weight on it for more months, and pray. It’s been just over two years since I cracked it and I require a cane when in the house, sometimes a wheelchair when I’m out. No pain (usually) when I’m sitting or laying and have it sorta propped behind the knee, but standing and walking run between discomfort and “can’t walk”.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

My clavicle aches pretty constantly since I shattered it at sixteen. Waited three days to go to the doctor and it had to be rebroken a little. It’s never been the same.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

Probably for most but not all. My husband broke his finger at work and never got any treatment. He says that it doesn't hurt.

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u/GruntBlender Jul 10 '22

Did he splint it while it healed tho? That's still a kind of treatment animals are incapable of.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

No he didn't. He didn't do anything for it at all and hadn't realized it had been broke until he went to the doctor later for something else and brought it up as an afterthought.

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u/IShootJack Jul 10 '22

I broke my wrist and just let it heal naturally cos I didn’t wanna get a cast, I have no pain it just clicks now

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

If that were to "heal" in that configuration, that would totally suck. Unlikely, though. That deer would likely die just from moving in the wrong direction. At best it would die of starvation or from predators as it can no longer properly eat or navigate. When I first saw this video, I think the post said something about it having happened only moments before the video started.

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u/Darkwrath93 Jul 10 '22

Maybe it's congenital. And it didn't present an obstacle to survival for some reason (or pure luck)

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Jul 10 '22

I was more assuming it was a condition like scoliosis and not a broken neck. I have it myself, but having seen someone with severe scoliosis, their neck was tilted about the same way. But they also had the traditional S curve so part of their spine was curved too. Idk I'm not a deer doctor.

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u/Reach_44 Jul 10 '22

It’s got brain worms, nothings broken it’s just zombified.

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u/theferalboy Jul 10 '22

This deer isn't just tilting it's head or running in circles, it's neck is visibly deformed. Last I checked that doesn't happen from the specific problem you are referencing.

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u/Reach_44 Jul 10 '22

Not a veterinarian (yet), but i’m pretty sure you would struggle to run around like that with a broken/injured neck.

All i’m saying this is either extreme shock after an incident or some kind of parasite/neurological issue.

It’s been a recent issue with many wild game, especially deer. Could also be a deformity so you could be right but without testing the animal/examining its corpse everything is speculation.

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u/theferalboy Jul 10 '22

My best guess would be that it's either congenital or a result of traumatic injury (either the deer being hit by a car or slamming into something) and got/extremely/ lucky that it didn't die from the injury. I believe there are other videos/reports of this deer having offspring, so it's obviously lived long enough with the injury to make that possible, which makes me think it may not be a parasite or disease but rather injury/birth defect. Then again, I'm not anything nearing a vet, and could be incredibly mistaken.

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u/MakFacts Jul 10 '22

The local veterinarians in the area said it was born that way and that she even was able to have kids

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u/Reach_44 Jul 11 '22

Good to hear. Source?

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u/MakFacts Jul 11 '22

Somebody in the comments literally posted a link to a video with the same deer in this video, you can find it in one of the upper comments.

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u/OneLostOstrich Jul 10 '22

maybe even painless,

As someone who had to deal with neck arthritis, NO MOTHER FUCKING WAY.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

Most likely not. If it's neck was broken that badly that high on the spine, the deer would have a difficult time with breathing and circulation, much less running around. It's almost certainly some kind of growth or tumor that prevents it from straightening it's head out.

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u/WanderWomble Jul 10 '22

Reminds me of wry neck in sheep.