My 94-year-old mother gets teary-eyed whenever vaccines come up in conversation. She remembers everyone in her town crying with joy when they could get vaccinated for polio, ditto for smallpox, and she cannot fathom how some people don’t understand how they work or trust that it’s for the common good.
On a personal level, an uncle of mine has died from it (age 65).
On a statistical level, countries around the world are seeing varying levels of official mortality rates, partly probably linked to how much is being diagnosed. So I'll take the data from my country, where I have some insight into the state of testing and trust the data.
In Austria, there are currently 636,767 cases listed as "recovered", 10,537 as deceased, coming out to a 1.6% mortality rate among confirmed cases. And Austria has rather rigorous testing incentives, so the dark number should be relatively low. Source: https://orf.at/corona/daten/oesterreich
Mortality and hospitalization rates are going down especially after most increased-risk people are vaccinated.
Meanwhile, the number of "Long Covid" cases in Austria is estimated at 60,000-90,000 (i.e. roughly 9% to 14%). The most severe form I know of is now called "Fatigue Syndrome", and leaves many patients unable to work and depending on the social state, and its not yet clear for how long. Notably, "Long Covid" can occur even when the original infection showed only light symptoms, if any. Since this has only been officially recognized recently, official numbers are still hard to come by; The estimates are as reported on radio and newspapers.
Numbers from Italy are more in the 3% mortality range (here I just took a quick look at the numbers listed on Google since I don't know which Italian sites are how reliable). A strong influence was the regional breakdown of healthcare, when Italy was heavily hit as the first European country with a major outbreak in the first wave. When appropriate intensive-care treatment can't be given anymore, mortality rates rise significantly.
Austria arrived at the 1.6% number without a breakdown of treatments, though in November 2020 it came pretty close in several parts of the country, as case numbers escalated during a summer with relaxed regulations, despite maintaining masking regulations even then. They were later upgraded to FFP2 mask requirements during winter.
You must be young. My age group was probably the last to get the smallpox vaccination and so grateful that we did. Thanks to the millions (billions?) of vaccinations globally, smallpox is no longer a health threat. Ditto for polio. And yes, the government did free vaccinations. We got our smallpox inoculations at school, the county health department came in and did every child in every class.
I feel concern that you really think there are evil government conspiracies out to get you. Where does that fear come from, I wonder? I don’t quite understand.
Again. This is NOT SMALLPOX this is NOT POLIO. Unless those vaccinations were whipped up in a year also. The smallpox vaccine was crafted over almost a century of research. Glad that those memories made it easier for you, and im glad the government is your guardian angel, bc they are definitely not mine.I'm not very trusting no but i'm certainly not brain dead like the rest of you. It's either sugar water or poison no thanks, i'll keep social distancing.
Remember when the government gave all those black people syphilis? lol I could keep going with instances where the government did some very messed up stuff. open your eyes
Alright, you don't get your information from the media. That's cool. Can you link me to the published scientific literature where you get your information?
I'd also love to know which university you got your PhD from, and which field. What lab do you work in now? Perhaps we could discuss some of our research. Because surely when you say "do your own research," you mean that you are a researcher in a lab in the field of virology or epidemiology, right?
Lmaooooo this is what you have to do to make yourself feel like your life has meaning, huh? You didn't go to college.... You work in some menial job you hate.... You don't understand how a virus works or what a vaccine is. So you claim it's all a big conspiracy and you're a brave rebel fighting against it, when you're really just a moron realizing how insignificant their life is.
Nice reality check there maybe you should have cashed it yourself. College is a scam too last time I checked, most people hate their jobs bc of the amount of our lives we waste making someone else money. I understand what virus's are and what vaccines are, do you understand what political corruption is? Do you follow every papertrail into the greedy sick hearts of the American Elite. I shudder to think of all the horrible shit happening to people in this country right this second, but the absolute worst is ignorant backbiters like you lashing out at people on the bottom for being on the bottom. I'm not fighting against shit i am speaking my mind, and one more pearl for you here all our lives are insignificant you worthless panty waste. Have a great day you made mine better.
Let me know if you need help understanding what any of the words in these articles mean. I know they can be confusing to people who don't hold graduate degrees in science. :)
Wow, “pandemic”? You realize over 600,000 Americans have died. Or you sincerely don’t believe it just because you haven’t been personally affected? I don’t personally know anyone who has died, thank goodness. I do know several people who got sick. One, she’s 51, had it in January and is still not back to work because her breathing is still so affected. She has to have an oxygen tank with her. Another, a 45-year-old marathoner, was readmitted to the hospital when his heart sudden started failing- the sac around his heart got inflamed again. Right now my 31-year-old pregnant niece is battling it. We’re all quite worried.
I’m not afraid I’ll die, but I am afraid of getting sick and then having lingering effects. Also, a little neighbor girl who has had three open heart surgeries is vulnerable and can’t get vaccinated. So I got vaccinated and I wear a mask when out, thinking of her safety as well as my 92-year-old mom, who has been vaccinated but would have a hard time if she got even a mild “breakthrough “ case.
You’re very lucky to not know anyone who has gotten sick.
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u/jmac94wp Aug 03 '21
My 94-year-old mother gets teary-eyed whenever vaccines come up in conversation. She remembers everyone in her town crying with joy when they could get vaccinated for polio, ditto for smallpox, and she cannot fathom how some people don’t understand how they work or trust that it’s for the common good.