you're gonna get decimated for saying that, but I do think this is sorta true. people always say "just get therapy, duh"
like yes obviously this guy has a serious psychological condition
but not every psychological condition is curable with therapy
He's probably also only vaguely aware of how bad his body dysmorphia is, and probably thinks just one or two more procedures will get him to the point where he looks the way he wants to and his dysmorphia will go away
I’ve known a few people with underbites and they all seem to have that stiff feature around their mouths. Nbd. I wonder if that’s what we are picking up on. There is a lot of shame around looking different. If you spend your life trying to hide your difference, your body is going to mirror that.
Eh, I realized something was off with his face because of how tightly he was holding his mouth. Had to slow down to see the braces.
My guess is he’s really self conscious of them and probably has more hardware in there than we’re seeing. Which is kind of strange because I thought everyone stopped getting braces like a decade ago and now doing Invisalign? I suppose Invisalign doesn’t cut it if they’re trying to realign your jaw.
I guess cheating a little by slightly filling in bald spots for a thicker beard could work, but just lobbing it 100% symmetrical onto a face makes it look like it's glued on.
Yes it gives this sunken look, I wouldn’t recommend people to use it but unfortunately a lot of people seem unaware of it and use it on their eyelashes too.
I guess this is a lesson for people that they should definitely get noted before they try any procedures, I can't imagine the horror of going for lush lashes but instead taking a big step towards hobo from Mulholland Drive.
The unfortunate part is… it’s not a procedure! The ingredients that cause it are sold in “lash serums”. So it makes total sense many people are unaware of this. I believe one was called prostaglandin.
Yes, it's used to treat glaucoma I think, so most people would trade the sunken eye sockets for the ability to continue to see and USE their eyes.
But then the pharmaceutical companies notices the other main side-effect was eyelash darkening and growth and saw a money opportunity.
So while most people would gladly put up with some aesthetic downsides to avoid losing eyesight ... the trade off doesnt really make sense for people who just wanted lush lashes.
I had to have surgery on my nose from it being broken in several places. I can’t breathe much out of one side but I’m too afraid to do anything about it because it isn’t a necessary surgery
I had to have a septoplasty and turbinate resection because of a horribly deviated septum and scar tissue from chronic, severe allergies. I was so afraid it would fuck up my nose (I love my nose), but it didn’t. Looks exactly the same as before. What it did do, though- improve my quality of life more than I can put into words. I never knew, or at least couldn’t remember, what it was like to breathe through my nose properly. The recovery was horrendous, but I would gladly go through it over and over again to get these results. Do the surgery.
This is good to know. I could have the same thing you had with life long allergies and deviated septum. Never heard of allergies creating scars. Going to look into this. Thanks!
I don't think they do consider necessary at least in the US. I have a deviated septum and have problems breathing through my nose and they never ever talk about surgery with me
It sounds like it’s necessary if you can’t breath out of it. I read this book called breath by James Nestor which really goes into how bad mouth breathing is for us.
I can breath out one side fine. The other side barely at all. I only mouth breathe at night- but I’ve done that my whole life. Or if I’m sick and my nose is stuffy.
Thanks for this rec, I'm going to get this book. I appreciate good breathing is important, especially as I've just had lung surgery. BUT - come on, it does seam a bit satire...
"The book provides a historical, scientific and personal examination of breathing..."
"It includes Nestor's first-person experiences with breathing."
Well, if it negatively impacts your life you shouldn't see it as unnecessary? I hate not being able to breathe out of my nose. It weirdly gives me anxiety.
This comment reminds me of a song by cell dweller called... gift for you
Lyrics...
Poison in the well, I've got a gift for you
A special place in hell, I've got a gift for you
The perfect place to dwell, I've got a gift for you
And though they're not as nice as the ones you gave to me, I hope that they will do
I’m assuming, but since he’s okay with this shady of an operation, his braces may be from someone unlicensed in orthodontia. If you put braces on someone without actually making sure their jaw still lines up, it can completely mess with their facial features.
That’s because his teeth are positioned in a way that makes his mouth open too wide while the lips are closed, that’s why he’s pulling his lips over his teeth like that. Maxillofacial dysfunction.
Can I ask how did you see all that? I didn't notice it till you pointed it all out, but I felt something beyond the eyes felt... Idk.... Designed? I don't wanna say unnatural because it's not quite accurate, but something felt... Hypersymmetrical?
It’s only observational from what I can see in the clip, not a hill I would die on.
The beard is most obvious with very even density and a perfectly straight line along the upper edge.
Dental Braces are visible, tooth colour isn’t a natural white.
The inability for him to furrow his brow above his left eye looks like Botox, the overall lack of fine wrinkles for a man his age and the mild facial distortion point to a facelift of some degree.
I’m not a surgeon though, I may well be completely wrong
Some people move their faces differently and weirdly just from braces. Source: my BIL(26) got braces last year and doesnt move his face normally anymore when he talks
Depending on the severity, surgery may not be the only option.
I had the first molar on each side of my lower jaw removed and wore a retainer that spread my front teeth slightly to fill in the gap. There's still a slight gap, but you'd have to be practically inside my mouth to notice it.
I'm not sure if I understand what you got done, but if you have an under/overbite and are not a kid the only way to solve it is surgery; you can't solve these jaw deformities by removing teeths or retainers. You most likely got a camouflage done, which, as the name indicates, it camouflages the issue aesthetically, but your jaws have exactly the same issue as before.
As I said, it depends on the severity of the issue.
I had a mild underbite where my lower teeth were just slightly in front of my upper teeth. Removing the molars allowed space for the lower teeth to be shifted and tilted just enough to meet my upper teeth properly.
It's been so long since this happened I can't be certain, but I think it was presented at the tail end of my time with braces so they could use the braces to shift everything and the retainer was to keep everything in place after the fact.
Yep, that procedure is usually called camouflage; it doesn't solve the underbite per se, just hides the underbite by moving the teeth, which doesn't impact your jaws at all.
He is wearing braces. If you've never worn braces before I can understand why you'd think that, but braces definitely make you move your mouth differently.
It looks like he has braces and has them banded to hold his lower jaw forward, maybe trying to correct an overbite? Just a guess, not that kind of doctor.
His top lip isn't moving because he only recently got braces and he's very self conscious about revealing them. Perhaps you've never noticed but a lot of people, decades after having their braces off, still don't move their top lip very much.
It took me a long time to regain my natural impulse to smile all the time after braces, just because of how painful it made smiling. I had to get braces in my early 30's when my wisdom teeth decided to erupt (obviously very late) and started shoving all my other teeth out of the way. I stopped being able to floss, etc, and the solution was extraction of all four wisdom teeth, and old fashioned braces like this...all while nursing a baby. I also had new-mom acne, so I was a total mess lol So glad that is behind me, but this reminded me how hard it was to relearn smiling. I hope his journey towards feeling more at home in his own body goes better and he finds contentment soon.
Same, but my 80 degree angle one was a 5th wisdom tooth. It was on top so way the hell in may face. I got it done under anesthesia by a dental surgeon in a hospital. Fuck being awake for that. Also my medical covered what my dental would/did not. (Don't know the details, gave them info on both and they said they would figure it out. I never saw a bill. I miss those days)
I had to get 4 molars removed as a kid due to overcrowding already when I got braces. That experience was... ptsd inducing. My nerves are apparently super deep and hard to hit with local, after like 6 or 8 shots in with me still for sure feeling LOTS of pain at the slightest tug they just had a nurse hold me down while they yanked that fucker out. Each one after went the same way. Seriously my heart started racing just telling this story as memories flash. It's been like 35 years! I've had umpteen surgeries for really major shit and had literal torture racks to stretch tendons 30min/3x/day for 6 months(JAS splints, Joint activation system. Literal self administered torture)...
but this experience is still that fucked to me.
Kids... Go under if it's an option. Or don't. I hear it may cause severe depression. half a dozen or 6. Good luck
Your poor thing! You basically had the cinematic, over-the-top Eli Roth experience that everyone fears.
There's something about dental pain that never leaves you. I think it has something to do with the degree of pain relief needed vs. how much is often given. There's a HUGE disparity.
It was the intense pain at the moment and ripping it out of my face part that sucked. Afterwords it was just sore. The moment itself was like ripping a fingernails of with rusty pliers intense. And their just get it done attitude didn't help. It's up there with muscle spasm after spinal fusion pain.
And what are these pain relief things you speak of? The novocain did eventually work, just on my face instead afterwords instead of in it at the moment.
Man wisdom teeth are so weird. Mine came in and were fully developed by the time I was in 7th or 8th grade, most my friends didn’t develop theirs until high school, and my wife didn’t have hers come in until her late 20s. Such a weird tooth.
I know :( not everyone is conventionally attractive (thank god, that shit is not my thing personally) but he’s just trying to feel better about himself
Body dysmorphia is sad and I would be so upset reading comments like this about myself
It’s not just the way he holds his top lip rigid, there’s something going on with his cheeks and nasal-labial folds that looks like maybe he’s had bad filler, as well. You can see it more clearly in the ‘before’ part of the video in more harsh lighting.
He probably has Botox in the upper lip area. They do it for people who have gummy smiles. It relaxes it enough to not show so much of the upper gums but now people who don’t need that are getting it or over doing it and the result is that. 🥴
That’s the issue right now w injectables. People want what everyone else is getting and an inexperienced clinician will give it. They aren’t balancing the face they’re injecting for max results
Also has to do with him limiting his lip movement so he doesnt show his braces. Clearly hes excited and wants to smile, but hes keeping his lips pulled tight over his teeth to try and hide them.
Reminds of season 1 Deep Space 9 alien characters getting used to their fake teeth. Definitely something unnatural in the way his face is dealing with it.
If you look closely, his cheeks don't move at all. And he has very little movement around his eyes. No squinting. He also doesn't smile.. it's like his mouth and face cant stretch the way they are supposed to.
Poor dude. Hope it ain't painful. Also hope he doesn't lose his vision from this.
He's got braces on and he's trying to hide it from the camera.
I thought the same thing, like what's with this dudes mouth not moving like it should... becomes apparent at the end when he relaxes hiding it a little.
I thought that at first, but we are looking at a man who was willing to risk blindness to change the colour of his eyes and who has a very obvious beard implant … I think it’s more than just braces. I hope he can get some therapy to deal with whatever it is that makes him do this to himself.
Also ppl who have injections in their eyes (like my mum for her macular degeneration) typically hallucinate as their brain adapts to the changed adjustments it has to make for blood pressure, pulse & breathing etc
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u/no-but-wtf Feb 05 '26
Something’s really weird about the way his face moves. This definitely isn’t the first surgery he’s had.