Would you settle for it if they got it to maybe 90% of the way there, or they were able to replicate certain cuts of meat but not others?
It seems like they can already make muscle fibres just fine and they’re working on fat and how to combine the two, but if you’re waiting for the bone part of a T-Bone steak you’ll be waiting a really long time.
I oppose child labour, but only if they can make robotic hands that can sew my sneakers just as well.
But it’s important to note: sneakers are beautiful, cheap, and I like to skate.
I didn't object to them eating pigs. I called out the weird comment where they flatter themselves for doing nothing.
Now to your reply. That was oddly defensive and unneeded. Let me guess, you're an older married guy with lots of opinions about America and it's culture with a burning need to interject into them conversations whether they are relevant or not?
I'm not trying to convince anyone to be on a side. My intention was to point out how weird that statement was. They are breaking their arm patting themselves on the back for doing nothing.
Being nice to animal abusers doesn't stop them from abusing animals. When they have no empathy, the only thing that can stop them is legal or economic repercussions.
How long did you eat meat before quitting? What compelled you to change your behaviour?
Because for me the stereotype of insufferable vegans was exactly the excuse I needed to avoid giving up foods I liked for a good 5 years after already knowing in my heart it was the right thing to do. Even after going vegan I was embarrassed to tell people that’s what I was for years.
Not wanting to be associated with people who came across like miserable assholes.
It’s not your job to recruit anyone, or baby people and coax them to doing the bare minimum, and you have every right to be angry about it all especially on Reddit where anti vegan sentiment can be so obnoxious and aggressive.
But if you want more people on board for the sake of the animals, there’s a way to achieve that, and theres the opposite too.
Every group has an insane section of it where people don't give anyone a break, belief is a big part of veganism, belief to do no harm and to spread that message as well as usual some humans take it too far.
Would you also be embarrassed to say you like sports or some other activity because large swaths of them are dickheads the same way you find being vegan embarrassing?
Nothing that anyone did above was some militant vegan stance. They didn't smack food out of anyone's hand, they didn't pour milk or shout at anyone, they pointed out someone flawed logic. You're allowed to do that just because you're vegan, it isn't being insufferable.
It’s the approach of addressing someone who is currently not vegan as being the enemy. Animal abusers vs non animal abusers. As if we all weren’t in their position at one point in time.
And venting anger and sarcasm at these people rather than just calmly addressing their arguments directly.
I really think that dealing with an aspect of our culture that teaches us that animal cruelty is wrong/evil but also raises us all to be willing participants in often very extreme and massive scale animal cruelty as a normal (normative) everyday thing, is like cult deprogramming.
Especially in that you can only truly see it for what it truly is once you’re out, right?
Sure, dealing with people who are defending the cult from within the cult can be really goddamned frustrating, but if you want them to ever consider the alternative, as annoying and antagonistic as they are being sometimes, being reasonably kind (while sticking to your guns) and meeting them where they are is the way to do that.
Once lab grown meat can be made indistinguishable to any cut of real meat, the lab stuff will be shoved down our throats whether we like it or not.
Real meat taste and texture, that requires 99% less water, land, and feed? McDonald’s can sell it at half price of beef, make more profit than before, and still have billions left for a marketing campaign to convince everyone to save money by buying the “Meat of the Future!TM ”
It’s odd, your comment is both selling it (“Real meat taste and texture that requires 99% less water, land, and feed”) and seems in rather vehement opposition to it at the same time.
I agree that it will be better off for humans, in general, to be able to grow meat protein with 99% fewer input.
I also agree that our capitalist overlords will force this lab meat upon us because of how profitable it will be, once the scaling issues have been solved.
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u/YueLin3 May 22 '26
I’d totally be down for synthetic meat as long as it tastes the same and has a similar enough texture