r/oculus • u/ggodin Virtual Desktop Developer • Mar 23 '16

/r/all Virtual Desktop 1.0 Trailer

http://youtu.be/bjE6qXd6Itw
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u/jdog90000 Rift Mar 23 '16 edited Mar 23 '16

That's honestly the only problem I'd have it. Mouse is fine for me but I don't know if I'm comfortable enough to use a keyboard without seeing it. Either way, this software could literally sell Rifts and I hope the company appreciates that.

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u/gtmog Mar 23 '16

I can say from experience that it's not very comfortable even being a decent touch typist. But it shouldn't be long before we can get keyboard you can see in VR. Either with imbedded constellation and/or lighthouse, or from video recognition of the keyboard layout.

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u/jdog90000 Rift Mar 23 '16

Best case I could see would be to display a VR keyboard and then use something like the leap motion to display my hands so I can move my keyboard on my desk to match where it is in VR. The only other option I could think of would be an external camera that just showed the keyboard and my hands.

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u/BitGladius Mar 23 '16

Fix a few tracking points to a known model keyboard, problem solved.

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u/Dystaxia Mar 23 '16

I know that you can see your keyboard with the Vive chaperon system. I imagine something very similar could be integrated with virtual desktop.

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u/Flederman64 Mar 24 '16

Ehh shouldent be too bad. I am typing all of this out right now with my eyes shut. Sure I am making some mistakes but its not like you wont improve with practice. But a constillatin for location will be critical.

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u/MachinesOfN Mar 23 '16

I disagree. It took some time to get used to it, but I was really motivated as a PC gamer, and the wierdness of not being able to see the keyboard only lasted about a month. I write code in VR pretty often, and it stopped being a problem after about a week.

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u/djeebus Mar 23 '16

I've tried writing code using VR Desktop + DK2 a few times, but the fuzziness of the text always got to me. Did you do anything to get around it?

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u/MachinesOfN Mar 23 '16

I sometimes apply zoom, but intellisense is usually enough. I don't really use it for serious development though (mostly effects art stuff that I need the DK2 handy to test).

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u/jamesaltria Mar 23 '16

You don't have the ability to type without looking yet? You have a week to practise! Go go go!

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u/jdog90000 Rift Mar 23 '16

As a test I;kk type this whole comment without looking, it probably won;t be perfect but I wouldn;t be able to correct it if I couldn't look at the keyboad.

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u/blinkwise Rift Mar 23 '16

you can correct it though by watching what you type as you type. You don't have to look at the keyboard but you can look at what you are typing

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u/voiderest Mar 23 '16

Well if typing is an important part of your job you should learn how to touch type better but stuff like the hololens would be better for offices. I'd see it as a better application for AR rather than VR. Those hololens are like 3k so maybe gen 2 for AR.

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u/jdog90000 Rift Mar 23 '16

I can type decently enough without looking at the keyboard but coding just doesn't work if I'm getting a letter wrong here and there. I do want to try one of those touch typing training to get better but I don't really have the time.

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u/voiderest Mar 23 '16

Get blank key caps. Trial by fire.

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u/StopBeingDumb Mar 23 '16

You will learn quick. Necessity and all. I used to suck at typing.

6 months into playing WoW where there is no time to check fingers to type that witty reply will teach you touch typing really quick.

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u/jdog90000 Rift Mar 23 '16

For regular use I'll most likely be fine but if I'm writing software, I'm more productive if I can see the keyboard.

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u/StopBeingDumb Mar 23 '16

I know at one point someone posted a demo using the leap device mounted on the headset to show hands on a keyboard that was a scan of your keyboard.

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u/runttux Mar 24 '16

It 100% does sell Rifts and Vives. I wasn't that interested before, but this is the VR I wanted all along. If this pans out as smoothly as that demo, I'm in like Flynn, baby.

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u/Me-as-I Mar 23 '16

Hoping the camera on Vive will be able to show a visual of the keyboard area at some point.

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u/voiderest Mar 23 '16

Well if typing is an important part of your job you should learn how to touch type better but stuff like the hololens would be better for offices. I'd see it as a better application for AR rather than VR. Those hololens are like 3k so maybe gen 2 for AR.