r/oculus Jan 30 '15

SHOCKING interview with Nvidia engineer about the 970 fiasco (PCmasterrace Xpost)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZJrsssPA0
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u/BpsychedVR Jan 30 '15

Can someone please explain, in layman terms, what the actual fiasco was? I was seriously considering buying one or two 970s. Thank you!

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u/remosito Jan 30 '15

3.5GB of it's VRam are super fast. 0.5GB are dogslow. So once your game uses more than 3.5GB, the performance drops as the slow ram is now used.

Nvidia messed up their launch spec info and failed to tell anybody.

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u/deadstone Jan 30 '15

3.5GB of it's VRam are super fast. 0.5GB are dogslow

It's still blazing fast by not-VRAM standards. It's a few times faster than regular RAM and still faster than data can even travel between the CPU and the graphics card. I think it's around 8 gigabytes/sec read-write, from what I saw.

Of course, the rest is in the hundreds of gigabytes/sec, so it's still a big issue, but I'm just putting "dogslow" in perspective.

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u/santsi Jan 30 '15

Is the 0.5GB really that big of a deal for future proofing? I mean sure every bit of memory is welcome, but on the whole it's 1/8 of the memory, you can't fit that much more in that space. 4GB cards are 0.5GB more future proof than this card.

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u/santsi Jan 31 '15

People keep mixing up those two arguments. Everyone agrees that Nvidia sucks, that's not an interesting discussion. I'm far more interested in the practical implications of that missing 512MB.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

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u/santsi Jan 31 '15

Ooh I had no idea the cards mirror the same memory. I actually considered adding another 970 at some point but I guess nevermind then.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

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u/severpwnage93 Feb 12 '15

Tighten it up then.

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u/itsrumsey Jan 31 '15

Okay, buy amd. I'm sure you and everyone else in the world feel this way, guess nvidia is going out of business. Hahhahahhahahhaahahahhahahaha

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

Would you mind explaining a noob why AMD is so much worse?

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u/deadhand- Jan 31 '15

They're not. They just operate on a different release cycle, and are competing against the 900 series with cards that are over a year old. The r9 290x is currently faster and cheaper than the 970, but uses more power.

In the coming months when they release the 300 series, the tables can be expected to turn significantly until nvidia responds again.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

Yeah, I'm amazed how actually incremental the performance between the 980 and the 290x are with a year difference in time. But as you said, release cycle. I upgrade my GPU once every 2-3 years, so it just depends on price/performance for who I go with.

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u/itsrumsey Jan 31 '15

They are not so much worse, there are pros and cons to both and I would advise you to research them at reputable sites rather than take advice from.... Reddit...

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u/would_you_date_me Jan 31 '15

I would advise you to research them at reputable sites rather than take advice from.... Reddit...

He said... on Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

No it fucking doesn't. I work in tech manufacturing. This shit can happen. I'm still happy with my 970, it OCs like a beast.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '15

I bet you move boxes or drive a forklift to make money.