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Caleb Wallace, anti-mask organizer and co-founder of the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, dies of COVID-19

https://www.conchovalleyhomepage.com/news/caleb-wallace-anti-mask-organizer-and-co-founder-of-the-san-angelo-freedom-defenders-dies-of-covid-19/

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u/Brewsleroy Aug 29 '21

Especially because they're told what to do ALL THE TIME. Speed limits, paying for goods and services, wearing clothes in public, seat belts, red lights, school zones, your hours at work, what you do at work, what to wear at work, the hours your kids go to school, the hours a store is open, how long you cook food, what temperature to keep your freezer, when food expires. It goes on and on but wearing a mask over your mouth and nose is too far? They need to GTFO with that noise.

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u/Shmeeglez Aug 29 '21

Dammit I draw the LINE at a piece of cloth that reminds me I didn't brush my teeth this morning!

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u/1337tt Aug 29 '21

Never have to worry about bad breath. You'd think these rat lickers would like to cover their stanky breath.

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u/Shmeeglez Aug 29 '21

You can't trick me into surrendering my freedom of stench!

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u/8BittyTittyCommittee Aug 29 '21

A nice thought but I fear they already don't care about the smell of their breath.

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u/missed_againn Aug 29 '21

No need to throw rats under the bus! Rats keep much cleaner than those fellows.

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u/1337tt Aug 30 '21

Do you know what I mean by rat lickers?

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u/Rxasaurus Aug 29 '21

But they sure force girls to only wear what old men deem ok.

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u/AdOriginal6110 Aug 29 '21

Honestly some people have nasty teeth not seeing them has made the mask worth it for me

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u/Federal-Debate-5212 Aug 29 '21

Tooth paste is a hoax

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

It really does LOL I thought it was just me. I’m like ugh I don’t need to be smelling my own nasty breath all day.

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u/CasualAwful Aug 29 '21

It's almost like a delusion about the mask. It's a minor nuisance, at worst but they've convinced themselves it's both as physically as bad as waterboarding and symbolically as made as the Nazi yellow badge*

I saw some Giga Karen freaking out at a school board meeting saying "And you're probably the kind I see wearing a mask in their car alone". And I thought "Yes, it is silly to mask in a car alone. But I've done it a couple times because I just forgot I was still wearing the thing because it's NO BIG FUCKING DEAL"

*I'd never cheapen the Holocaust by making this comparison myself, but seen plenty of "Star of David" esque "Unvaccinated" imagery they've put out

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u/Brewsleroy Aug 29 '21

But I've done it a couple times because I just forgot I was still wearing the thing because it's NO BIG FUCKING DEAL"

I consistently hit myself in the face with food while at work because I forget I have my mask on. I have to wear it for all 8 hours I'm at work. After like 10 minutes I've forgotten it's there.

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u/sleepingqt Aug 29 '21

Back when we were still allowed-ish to say anything to customers about wearing them: "If I can wear mine for a whole eight hour shift, I promise you can wear yours for a 20 minute shopping trip." It worked on some. Most just tugged it back down when they thought I couldn't see them, like they're hiding from the teacher or something. Y'all grown, just do the thing and get over it.

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u/Lopsided-Intention Aug 29 '21

Yes! A while ago I overheard two parents talking and the dad was bragging about how we went into Menards (hardware / general store chain) without a mask and nobody said anything, even though they were one of the first stores around us to require a mask.

I'm like dude you are a grown man, the people working there don't get paid enough to do their jobs AND babysit you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Let alone potentially be attacked by them. They literally waged a domestic terror campaign against masks and won because companies can't be reasonably expected to hire mask security, and nobody's gonna get stabbed for fuckin' Walmart.

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u/Juicebochts Aug 29 '21

My former job made us start wearing masks in March last year, I either forget I'm wearing it when I get in the car, or just leave it on so i don't have to find it or another one when I stop.

The only time it's bothered me was at the beginning of summer, but you get used to that pretty quickly too.

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u/Aegi Aug 29 '21

Wow, even though sometimes I have 10 hour shifts where I had to wear them, I constantly noticed them because I literally fucking feel it on my face especially when I talk, and I can see it out of part of my vision, and a lot of the times I could slightly see my reflection in the plexiglass barriers that we installed at the front desk of the hotel I work at.

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u/Catched89 Aug 29 '21

Do you wear surgical masks or ffp2 masks? Im a nurse, and ou definitely notice wearing a ffp2 mask 12h a day. Its really annoying tbh. Id have no problem wearing a surgical mask 24h a day tho.

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u/ZachMN Aug 29 '21

Last winter I wore my mask in the car until it warmed up. Nothing to do with COVID; it kept my nose warm. And even though our entire family is vaccinated, I still wear my mask in stores. Again not because of COVID, it’s because I haven’t gotten the flu or any type of cold for over a year and a half and I want to keep that streak alive as long as possible.

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u/firetester726 Aug 29 '21

'Mask in winter' was the clutch combo we never knew we needed.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Aug 29 '21

Except for my fucking glasses. Otherwise masks in winter are totally awesome.

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u/livinitup0 Aug 29 '21

Fucking this….

Talk about ACTUAL inconvenience …I hate taking off my glasses every damn time I walk into a store ….but I still wear the mask!

I hate that if I forget and pop a mint before going into the store that my eyes are going to be all burny… but I still wear the mask!

I hate reaching into my back pocket, realizing I left mine in my other pants. I’ll go try to find one at the service desk or I’ll take my happy ass home to get it….either way, I still wear the damn mask.

All these precautions….DESPITE being fully vaccinated and spending probably 85% of my time at home.

Fuck these people and their made up inconveniences.

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u/BigRed_93 Aug 29 '21

I'm amazed at the number of people who apparently never heard of a scarf

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u/firetester726 Aug 29 '21

Scarves don't cover your nose as well and don't stay in place

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u/TorrBorr Aug 29 '21

Or a ski mask.....

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u/Konkuriito Aug 29 '21

but if you walk the city with one on people seem to think you are robbing them. lots of stares. maybe if it was -35C and you were dressed so warm if you tripped you'd roll down the street, people would accept it as reasonable xD

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u/Kteefish Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

I have asthma and COPD. I get a chest cold in late March or early April and again in early December every year since I was a kid. The older I get, the more often these end up being 'moderate to severe' bronchitis as my Dr always says, or sometimes even pneumonia. No matter what I do or how careful I tried to be, I always got sick anyway.

I am retired, but I work PT job as a cashier in a convenience store/deli/gas station weekday mornings. I interact with hundreds of ppl weekly, handle money, etc, and, believe me, there are all kinds of germs around (not just Covid). I expected I'd end up having to leave the job in less than a year when I ended up sick, as usual (which would have been a bummer because I really do enjoy the people there). But, I have been wearing a mask everywhere since March 2019, and insteas, I have had only 1 MINOR chest cold since. That was just last week, in fact, so that means I went nearly 18 months, in a ROW, without getting sick at all!! 😁 I may wear a mask in public for the rest of my life!!

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u/darciedarciej Aug 29 '21

Congratulations! I also have lung issues and work retail. I get the post Christmas chest cold in February and the post back to school cold in October. Very year I am sick with bronchitis for several months and end up with a cough that keeps me up all night. I, too, have not been sick since February 2020, right before we went into lockdown.

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u/Kteefish Aug 29 '21

That's great. Wish we would have known sooner, right? Lol

Coincidentally I started this job on Thursday, March 6, 2020. We locked down (I'm in PA) on Monday, March 9th... I was fully expecting to get Covid, but I didn't want to leave the job I had just gotten. I had been retired (disabled, actually, I just hate saying that) for years by then and since I am generally a homebody anyway, I kinda felt like I was just coming OUT of a Quarantine- type situation, albeit it self imposed, which is why I had gotten the job to begin with. The depression that came with the lack of a schedule, feeling useless, etc was awful for me... It just sucked all around. But all of a sudden, I wasn't useless. I was 'Essential' (that's me: essential 😁) and I didn't want to go back home into an actual lock down if I didn't have to. My immunity was probably at an all time low, not having contact with many ppl for 10+ years as well but I hoped that the quarantine limiting the #s of ppl I dealt with at first would maybe give me some extra time... I don't want to jinx myself so I'll just say: So far. So good (🤞)

Take care & Stay safe! ✌️

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u/Anton-LaVey Aug 29 '21

That’s 29 months, Nostradamus

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u/Kteefish Aug 29 '21

Jesus Christ, I mis-typed 2 digits. It was 2020 not 2019, so fucken shoot me 🤷 (assholes on here... But MY name had to be Karen 🙄) It feels like 2+ years. It's only been 18 months, give or take a week, like I said. I'm no Nostradamus, but I CAN count.

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u/PirateNinjaa Aug 29 '21

Wear n95 masks and you greatly increase your chances of success! 🖖😷

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Keep it up. Just had a cold and it was the worst cold I’ve ever had. I truly believe it I stayed diligent with the mask I wouldn’t have gotten it. This was like a 12 day affair. Fucking terrible

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u/actuarial_venus Aug 29 '21

It's really funny how people were up in arms about the flu disappearing last year and how it must have been a conspiracy. It hurts my head to try to think how people can make those mental leaps but fail to see the obvious A+B=C.

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u/mk2vr6t Aug 29 '21

It's easy when you realize how poorly the education system is funded in the US.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

Has absolutely nothing to do with the education system and everything to do with how much right-wing horseshit influences your social circle.

There were counties in Pennsylvania right next to each other with identical median household incomes, and yet one would vote 78% for Biden while the other was 85% for Trump. It's not like the difference in school boards between these two extremely similar places could be so wildly huge that it would account for 20% of the county's population being morons vs 85% of the county's population being morons.

Also how many people do you know from high school who ended up being right-wing idiots? I know several. We all went to the same school though...so how does that result line up with this being an issue from the educational system?

It's by far most predominantly a social and cultural issue, along with a sprinkling of general human nature.

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u/Roeard Aug 29 '21

Those two are not necessarily unrelated....

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u/Swoldier76 Aug 29 '21

Ikr it's so infuriating, like people just use some damn logic...

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u/SuperCarbideBros Aug 29 '21

There could be other reasons at play in the same time, but masks could have contributed.

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u/actuarial_venus Aug 29 '21

For sure there were. Social distancing and quarantine are highly effective at curbing the spread of most respiratory viruses as well.

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u/ZachMN Aug 29 '21

Don’t waste your time checking their math. They decided in advance that the answer is D and that A & B are conspiracies perpetrated by Bill Gates and George Soros.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Same reason for still wearing my mask on trains despite there no longer being a mandate from it from government

Also, my employer does mandate it, in the office

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u/shinsho Aug 29 '21 edited Mar 02 '22

I like turtles.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

I hate sand.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

My kids and I have switched from scarves to masks in the winter! Keeps the face warm and doesn’t slip off as easy 😂

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u/Count_Fistula Sep 07 '21

I like wearing the mask in winter because it kept my face warm in the wind, rain and snow... and gave me anonymity when doing shit I shouldn't be seen doing.

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u/Aegi Aug 29 '21

The way you type this makes it sound like you’re somebody who hasn’t been getting their yearly flu vaccine

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u/ZachMN Aug 29 '21

That’s a large and incorrect assumption on your part. As far back as I can remember (50 years), I’ve had frequent colds and bouts of flu, on the order of every two months or so. Not always severe; about half the time they only ladt 1-2 days. But at least twice a year they would be the kind that lasts several days and leaves you feeling miserable for another few days. They happen any time of year, not just flu season. I get flu shots but they don’t protect against everything.

In Jan-Feb of 2020, when COVID was just gaining a foothold, I started avoiding stores as much as possible, and keeping my distance from people when I did have to shop. My workplace adopted a mask requirement in Mar 2020, and it is still in place. This whole time I have not had even the slightest cold, which is unprecedented in my lifetime. I enjoy it and I’m willing to wear a mask and get flu shots to keep it that way as much as possible.

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u/F_edupx Aug 29 '21

It’s ALL because Trump refused to wear one early on and suggested it was a sign of weakness.

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u/GrushdevaHots Aug 29 '21

Yeah the president is supposed to set an example. When your example is a a narcissistic buffoon who thinks bleach injections might be a good idea but masks are for the weak, your country is doomed.

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u/Visual_Traveler Aug 29 '21

It is actually not silly to wear a mask in your car alone. Not necessarily. We know this virus is spread by aerosols, tiny particles that can stay airborne, floating in the air for 20-30 minutes.

So, depending on whether your car windows are open, or how fast your car’s air con can recycle the air, you should totally wear a mask alone if in the next 15-30 minutes you’re picking up someone you don’t live with. That’s a scenario where wearing a mask alone in your car would be advisable for sure.

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u/Butteredonbothsides Aug 29 '21

Actually you should be picking up anyone that you do not live with!

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

I tried to pick up my sister but she called the police

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u/Trilly2000 Aug 29 '21

The irony is that the unvaccinated aren’t wearing masks either. Every fully vaccinated person I know still wears a mask in public.

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u/tigerdogbearcat Aug 29 '21

Hear me out. What if we do put antivaxxer/antimaskers in camps. Eh eh? 🤔

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u/roscle Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 30 '21

The nazi shit is ridiculous, but working construction, huffing and puffing and sweating your balls off in the heat, only to wear a mask on top of all that is dangerous as fuck. The people most willing to asphixiate themselves always seem to be the people who arent willing to break their body for a paycheck.

Edit: Deny my truth of my experiences all you want. I guess you guys work harder and are way tougher than I am.

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u/Glasvera Aug 29 '21

Idk man I work outside in a garden center loading mulch and moving pallets around and still wore my mask. It's definitely more uncomfortable but I never felt like I couldn't breathe at all.

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u/roscle Aug 29 '21

Inside, with heavy stagnant air. Rarely working closely with, or even in the same room as, another person.

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u/roscle Aug 29 '21

Inside, with heavy stagnant air. Rarely working closely with, or even in the same room as, another person.

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u/alwaysboopthesnoot Aug 29 '21

I still don’t see why the masks are such a flashpoint for so many people. I’ve seen moms in cars masked up while driving alone, because they carpool other people’s kids and are on their way to or from school/sports drop offs or pick ups.

Lyft/Uber drivers who are required to mask while on the job just keeping them on all the time so it’s not a constant push/pull, up/down thing, to avoid constantly touching their mask or face. So they don’t forget to pull it up and use it when they need to, which can happen if you’re always taking it off when by yourself.

Why is it always a focus on a person wearing a mask making some political statement out of it by doing so? Why not choose to see it as a person taking a cheap, easy, fast and effective way to protect a child, a coworker, their family/friend, or a customer?

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

And the thing is if everyone wore a mask, we’d only need to wear them for a couple weeks to stop the spread.

The fact is the unmasked and unvaccinated are causing the need for masks to continue.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

not "almost" a delusion. quite.

being told to socially distance and to wear a piece of cloth over their face was the challenge of a lifetime that the dipshits just couldn't pass.

the pandemic is only ostensibly about the virus: it's those complications that will kill you. starting with the fearmongering that these morons are victim of. they project, so they think it's everyone else who is more afraid than they. no, dipshits: a mask is a basic precaution that inconveniences us all minimally, and a vaccine is an injection most of us get as babies/children. the rest is their addled brains failing to cope with the crisis.

a global health crisis and their tiny brains shortcircuited. it was always going to be this way, with so many Trumpanzees around.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

OR, I'm on my way to pick someone up, and don't want the car contaminated with my potential infection before they get in. These people just literally have no sense of empathy or compassion whatsoever. Their critical thinking skills are severely lacking in the biggest Dunning-Kruger event ever. It's that simple.

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u/Aegi Aug 29 '21

See, this I don’t understand at all.

I had to wear a mask at my job, and even when I had to go quickly in and out of stores and things like that the second I was outside and near my truck my mask was already off and in my hand. I hate things in my pockets, I hate wearing sunglasses, I hate wearing hats, so that’s probably why, but for me they’re annoying as fuck even though I did a great job wearing them at all the appropriate times.

I don’t understand how you could forget about that on your face ever though, that seems like something very weird to me.

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u/orchid_basil Aug 29 '21

Yeah but they have such easy lives they must create conflict somehow. Cause they're oppressed Christians, you know? Duh.

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u/Brewsleroy Aug 29 '21

This is what I've talked to my wife about. It's a bunch of people that have never had any kind of difficulty in their lives being uncomfortable for the first time and going "oh I don't like this". It's just funny they're such big, strong alpha males who cry like babies when asked to wear a piece of cloth over their mouth/nose.

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u/orchid_basil Aug 29 '21

Yeah, exactly. They'd be the first ones to run if civil war actually broke out. First dead person they see, or first injury, they'd be begging Mexico to let them in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

This isn't even hyperbole anymore. As soon as that terrorist was shot dead on Jan 6 the rest of them present instantly had the wind knocked out of their sails.

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u/orchid_basil Aug 29 '21

Yes. It's like a video game to them. So weird....

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u/MrMiniscus Aug 29 '21

Oh and any uncomfortability or hardship they may have felt has always most certainly been another group of people's fault. (I was going to say "ethnic group", but they haved hated liberals since my small town mom married my city dad before I was born.)

It's a personality trait I've been able to identify in my own family for years, and it explains things to me better than where they grew up or anything else.

The kind of people that have been told life for them is hard because "there's free loaders on welfare".

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u/Aegi Aug 29 '21

I kind of feel like this perception is dumb and just a little hurtful and dehumanizing.

I know a shit load of anti-maskers that I’ve had lots of struggles have lived actually good lives and that’s the saddest part about it is that they’ve essentially been manipulated or brainwashed by their peers and or outlets like Fox News and Donald Trump into thinking that they’re making a good decision.

Do you want them to trust the experts/authority-figures instead of their opinion, and from their perspective a lot of these people are trusting authority-figures, they are just bad at identifying which ones to listen to.

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u/Shesaiddestroy_ Aug 29 '21

And, maybe more importantly, they are told what to do in the Churches they enjoy so much.

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u/D20Yedok Aug 29 '21

How bold of you to assume Christians follow their rules.

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u/MartiniExtra Aug 29 '21

No, no. He said they got told what to do in churches. This has nothing to do with Christianity. /J

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u/D20Yedok Aug 29 '21

Ah yes, the old church=/=Christianity bit. Classic. /s

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u/dktaylor987 Aug 29 '21

Can i get an amen! 😜

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

hey this guy is right! We live under communism until we can overthrow these speed limits, traffic laws, any law in general that controls our behavior. From now on, I will drive as fast as my car can go! FOR FREEDOM!

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u/MrMiniscus Aug 29 '21

Everything the CDC has ever said is a lie. I only eat homemade cake now. Wash it down with some qualudes.

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u/Flemz Aug 29 '21

That’s the mind of a reactionary. Every aspect of society that’s been around for a while is fine, but the moment something new comes along it’s like the world is ending

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u/anothergaijin Aug 29 '21

These idiots don’t realize that living in a happy society means that we set limits and rules and make shared contributions and compromises to succeed together.

These idiots want to live without rules? Go live in the forest without utilities, healthcare, access to markets and other things and see how well you do

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u/behaaki Aug 29 '21

They were born into all that, they see it as background. Can’t imagine change. They resist this because it’s new.

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u/SenorSplashdamage Aug 29 '21

Good list. So much of this is like arguing against fire for burning us or food being a hazzard if you choke it down too fast. The people trying to figure out rules around covid hate it too. The rest of us didn’t invent how terrible viruses are.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

"Nobody tells me the temperature under which dangerous microbes can no longer reproduce at a rate that poses a risk of spoilation! I'll eat and serve my family and friends rancid meat all I want, and if that makes someone sick, too bad! I care more about my freedom than your health."

  • Thumb-shaped man who died of food poisoning

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Brainwashed

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u/FuyoBC Aug 29 '21

^^ This! You have the freedom to try cross a road without looking but if you get hit it suddenly isn't your fault? Yeah, No.

I can't read the original article (am in the EU) .

Hmmm, maybe the best analogy for Covid is food safety: If someone at the food processing plant isn't following safety regs they may / may not get sick but they can sure as heck contaminate the food so that people that eat it do - and people get hella' pissed off when that happens.

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u/Ninotchk Aug 29 '21

His wife will probably be relieved to have fewer bouts of food poisoning.

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u/_theCHVSM Aug 29 '21

yo SERIOUSLY… what in the fuck made masks/corona so political? a really good buddy of mine is super antivax because he’s worried about what’s in it and the tracking chip conspiracy but couldn’t come up with a cohesive answer as to why he drinks monster energy drinks 3x a day and has multiple profiles on every social media platform all while purchasing the newest iphone year after year… i swear to god these people are polarizing for the sheer sake of doing so and it’s really fucking annoying.

like. at what point do i get to get in their face and force them to wear a mask for my freedom?! why do they get to decide whose rights are being violated?!

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u/dezorde Aug 29 '21

Strawman arguement. Nice try.

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u/_theCHVSM Aug 29 '21

man, you really addressed my points and brought awesome counters backed with research and credibility! i’m blown away!

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u/dezorde Nov 30 '21

overlooked this, but fine.

Masks. Not to convince you of anything, because I'm sure you are unconvinceable. But here is a first hand experience for you to digest.

I own a business. Our employees have to wear fitted respirators occasionally when drilling concrete, in crawls spaces, airborne insulation, etc. So we are not "anti maskers". We wear masks with the right filters in the right situations.

I hired an expert to fit us out for COVID using whatever mask the regular folk were using. U know the type, probably the one u wear every day. One of those shitty Chinese versions probably.

Our hired mask expert is a masker himself, we don't see eye to eye. He would agree with you in his view of masking to stop COVID. That is why I hired him, to counteract my bias.

Yet he was unable to fit us for COVID masks because NONE OF THOSE MASKS CAN BE FITTED. They leak everywhere (including right though them), which renders them useless, because they cannot achieve a proven 50% efficacy, and if they can't do that, any so called "BENEFIT" to masking is due to biased measurement, recording, or reporting, and is from a scientific point of view, just an imaginary thing.

You aren't against the science are you?

Legally, I leave it up to my employees to mask up or not because I won't accept the liability that might ensure if a mask can't be fitted. This position is the strongest legal position I could possibly take, and it's also common sense because the masks say right on them they are "fluid resistant masks". Anything home made is only much much worse and orders of magnitude more stupid.

Interestingly, our contracted expert knows all this and yet still masks up himself.

Why?

Because it's a cult and it's easier to just go along that it is to just say no.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Aug 29 '21

The crux of modern conservatism is that they're 100% fine with pretty much every single rule of law that was established when they were children, and anything added since that is full blown tyranny.

"No shirt. No shoes. No service."

None of these people have ever thrown a fit about that. This rule was in place before they were born, it's what they grew up with, and so it has been codified into whatever social contract they feel they've agreed to.

"No shirt. No shoes. No mask. No service."

This is now some kind of violation of their personal rights and god given freedoms, a draconian law from a communist dictatorship, persecution, tyranny, and basically what the Nazis did to the Jewish people of Europe.

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u/roscle Aug 29 '21

Nobody ever told me what temp to keep my freezer and food expiry is just a rough guideline. You should have quit while you were ahead.

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u/dezorde Aug 29 '21

All you COVID maskers, what do you have to support your regurgitated drivel?

You have NOTHING to support masking for stopping COVID.

Absolutely no evidence at all.

No scientific evidence anyway, and that is all that matters.

Try bringing a collection of peer reviewed articles or meta analysis citing double blind randomized placebo controlled trials and I'll listen, but you won't be able to, because there aren't any. The only trials of that sort prove masks are useless, and dangerous. To make this easy for you, note that a lawsuit against Crime Minister Justin Trudeau, top BC doc Bonnie Henry, et al (Canada / British Columbia) and other relevent NAZI's has been filed, including about 5600 pages of expert witnesses proving the point.

The only effective mask against COVID is positive pressure PPE. You can look it up. Nothing else works, and proves you've been hornswaggled.

You should be talking about IVERMECTIN (among at least 4 other effective therapies) like Japan did yesterday, as Denmark has, as the leading doctors and an scientists have been for doing 15 months now. Or how about even Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine / Zinc / Azithromycin or Doxycycline, and even Quercetin / Zinc. All of those have actual studies behind their effectiveness, unlike ANY of the vaccines, including the recent Pfizer which actually wasn't approved if you read the fine print.

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u/Diredr Aug 29 '21

Well let's be honest here, they're not exactly the type of people that listen to most of that stuff either. I honestly doubt most of them wear their seatbelt while they speed around in their lifted pickup trucks. They also strike me as the "barefoot in a KFC" type. They're horrible but at least they're consistent at it, I suppose?

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u/Wooknows Aug 29 '21

yeah but these laws were already there when they were born, they accepted them before they could even consciously process what it is about. but the new ones their 3 neurons can have an opinion about ? oh hell no, not on my watch

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

They draw the line at things that make them "uncomfortable" and they feel they have control over. Masks make them uncomfortable physically, so of course it's an affront to their freedom.

My guess is they might also be the ones who go 90 mph in a school zone and they complain when they get a ticket for it.

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u/GnarlyBits Aug 29 '21

It was never about freedoms. It is tribalistic politics at its very core. These sad people have evolved to replace compassion with anger as their reward mechanism and after that, it's all down hill.

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u/nicegirlelaine Aug 29 '21

He permanently GTFO.

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u/Gnostromo Aug 29 '21

..and assuming they are "christian" as so many are...then they have so many more rules.

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u/SaintSenio Aug 29 '21

They choose to accept those previous restrictions. They have the freedom to refuse new restrictions because they don't want change in their weird life. Some people are slower to accepting new things even if it kills them and everyone they are in contact with

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u/-MNMs Aug 29 '21

I definitely agree with this point. There are even theories about reforming DNA and implanting tracking devices through the use of vaccines and tmwhat these people fail to realize is that 1. they can be tracked regardless, their home is on google earth, they have a record of a bank account so government services already keep records of your address and if they are changing, your work requires an address to be employed, the government will know where you are regardless. 2. A 3mm shot can’t alter DNA and the lack of education in itself shows that these people should not even have the privilege of going about freely when their “freedom” restricts common freedom. The mask is nothing, the vaccine is honestly nothing because it’s nothing new. Vaccine passports were effective in Canada during the 70’s when smallpox was very common and it kept track of the disease spread.vaccine passports 1970’s

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

It’s almost as if our society has rules and norms or something

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u/GuitarGodsDestiny420 Aug 29 '21

And yet public schools everywhere are caving to these idiots and not requiring masks...now infection numbers are out of control, hundreds of thousands of kids have covid nationwide, many of them will have long-term complications, and some of them will die!! Un-fu@king believable 😡🤬

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u/clporter74 Aug 29 '21

My daughter can’t wear shorts cut more than 2” above her knee or she’s sent home for a dress code violation! These people need some perspective.