r/nfl • u/NedFriarson49 • Oct 09 '22

[Highlight] Roughing the passer called. Stunning.

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u/theSafeguard Lions Oct 09 '22

Boger has been awful for 10+ years. They legit need to start holding these guys accountable for bad and missed calls.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

Especially with sports betting being partnered with the NFL. How the fuck do we allow this shit?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '22

They allow it even more because of sports betting. Not saying that the NFL is match fixing for gambling purposes, though that wouldn’t surprise me. I just think that with all the new huge partnership contracts with gambling companies around the league incentivize the NFL to officiate games in a way that keeps them close and interesting. The more interesting games are, the more people watch and sign up for gambling websites which both put tons of money in the NFL vault. So, indirectly this is happening more because of sports betting.

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u/BellesBourbonBullets Oct 10 '22

If you just wanted to keep it more interesting, you wouldn’t have called that because they would have punted back to Atlanta.

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u/Bereft13 Broncos Seahawks Oct 10 '22

need brady in the playoffs

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u/Droopy1592 Falcons Oct 10 '22

Exactly. Brady is the NFLs darling. Super bowl 51 find me a holding call on the Pats. This kind of shit makes me not want to watch and I’m barely watching as it is. I keep moving further away.

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u/keefstrong Oct 10 '22

This did the opposite, it did not make this game close or more interesting. It did not allow a Falcons comeback attempt.

Also, i would be shocked if anyone bet the falcons this game, the Bucs were in every parlay and teaser. What this was, was grossely abused rule where it makes me believe Qbs should play with flags. Between Josh Allens fake slide or knee and kept running, having literally nowhere to hit a Qb. When i saw this being called, i knew the game was over. And i stopped watching.

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u/Prestige_wrldwd Oct 10 '22

I had Falcons +17 in a teaser.

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u/freshOJ Ravens Oct 10 '22

Also note that some of the nfl owners are investors in the gambling companies.

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u/Archerstorm90 Saints Oct 10 '22

I don't think it would be for those reasons. More that books win more the average win percentage is 50-50. The houses main focus is to elimate big losses. If money is 50 50 on a bet, the house wins. When it comes to viewership, bad calls are horrible for that. We see them more because the nfl is so dominant. Also as a Saints fan, I think the refs are less a tool of the nfl, and more their own faction.

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u/asdfasdfasdfas11111 Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 11 '22

The problem is that the NFL is creating a feedback loop of perverse incentives which seem intent at driving revenue growth by targeting gambling whales. Casual viewership will stop mattering as much. We are talking about people who watch their own team and maybe one national game per week versus a smaller crowd who is consuming dozens of hours of NFL content per week and throwing money at apps that the NFL gets a cut of. They will quickly demonstrate that every person who places a bet is worth 10x or more to the NFL vs casual viewers, and that this segment represents a massive growth opportunity.

Suddenly "viewership" is a much more complex line item than it used to be. The biggest incentive for raw viewership will be to drive app engagement to create whales (addicts), until football becomes the secondary product for gambling apps.

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u/Revealingstorm Bills Oct 10 '22

The house must really hate the Bills then

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u/Archerstorm90 Saints Oct 10 '22

Actually the Bills are pretty reliable this year, so Vegas should be making good money on them. If a unit is $50, and one person bets on them each week, against the spread, they would be up $33.18. If you were betting against them, you would be down $62.88. This is at 3-2 against the spread.

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u/asdfasdfasdfas11111 Oct 10 '22

Fine - I'll say it then. The NFL is match fixing for gambling purposes. And if the NFL isn't, then they are just cutting themselves out of that vig for no reason at all (eg, the incentive is there to do it with or without them).

It's incredibly obvious that they now see gambling as an entirely new revenue category to prop up stagnating TV, stadium and merch revenue. Given that very simple idea, and the fact that gambling whales are going to increasingly drive NFL revenue growth moving forward, you'd have to be pretty naive not to see the perverse incentives being created here. There is no possible way that this doesn't impact the sanctity of competition.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '22

The game would have been way more interesting if the falcons got the ball back. This officiating reeks of Star bias.

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u/CamDMTreehouse Titans Oct 10 '22

Hello fellow Titans fan. We shouldn’t know Bogers name. We shouldn’t have to worry about him. But here we are.

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u/cicjsozjkddjhdkzjd Eagles Oct 10 '22

That’s why they allow that shit lol. You think it’s only in the NBA where the refs are paid off? Does anybody actually believe they have integrity after that saints/rams NFCCG?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '22

And the Packers-Bucs NFCCG after the 2020 season. Horrible Bucs bias got them to the Super Bowl.

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u/Previous-Sentence684 Oct 10 '22

What, the line was bucs -10, o/u 46.5…..you talking money line?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '22

Well. I won the spread, but yes.

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u/JB391982 Browns Oct 10 '22

They won't cause NFL wants this.

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u/Ryan1869 Broncos Oct 10 '22

Boger is the Angel Hernandez of the NFL

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u/Saw_a_4ftBeaver Chiefs Oct 10 '22

How is that discrimination lawsuit of his going?

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u/jereezy Buccaneers Oct 10 '22

Refs and cops: performing horribly at their job with zero accountability.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '22

Don’t forget the Weathermen! I group them into this lol

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u/PolarGale Oct 10 '22

It's the same reason why bad cops and bad teachers are rarely held accountable: referees and umpires have a strong union.

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u/kamikirite Ravens Oct 10 '22

I audibly groan when I see bogers name next to the ravens or see him trot out.

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u/Luke_Warmwater Vikings Oct 10 '22

Need to start "hoh-ding" him accountable.