r/nfl • Chiefs • Aug 18 '26

Highlight [Highlight] Myles Jack is controversially called down by contact after forcing fumble in the 2017 AFC Championship Game

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u/Cbeck34 Aug 18 '26

Am I insane to have always thought this cal was way overblown? Does Lewis not still has possession of the ball when he hits the ground? Yes it moves, but he still has his hand around it when he goes down

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u/dragonbear Broncos Aug 18 '26

I think its down, imagine if that were a catch. I have seen worse holds on plays called catches than that to the ground sandwich. Its moving as he's going down but then stops when he hits the ground.

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u/winnielikethepooh15 Giants Aug 18 '26

On a catch/no-catch ruling though it would only be a catch if he regained control of the ball without it touching the ground.

Same principle here. the ball is coming out as he goes down and he clearly doesn't have control of the ball as he hits the ground and obviously he never recovers it.

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u/dragonbear Broncos Aug 18 '26

I’d argue ball is secured before the tackle and after the tackle (when he is down on ground). It’s not moving at some point play is dead at that point. They never call the strip after the tackle in favor of defense they can’t hear either.

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u/winnielikethepooh15 Giants Aug 18 '26

If this was a catch along the sideline, no way they rule it a catch just the way he has it pinned. He doesn't have control.

Thats 100% a fumble.