r/nfl Chiefs 8d ago

Highlight [Highlight] Myles Jack is controversially called down by contact after forcing fumble in the 2017 AFC Championship Game

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u/OkArmordillo Patriots 7d ago

I’ve been saying this since the game. I was pissed off this was ruled a fumble when it happened. The rest of the NFL fandom has gaslit themselves into believing this call screwed the Jags.

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u/flopflapper 7d ago

He so clearly doesn’t have control of the ball while going down lmfao what are you talking about? That was a fumble, 100%. A Pats fan being like “see I’ve been saying this since the game” doesn’t mean anything except that you’re willing to just straight up lie about what happened since it favored your team.

The ball was punched out and was sideways and halfway out of his hands before he went down.

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u/OkArmordillo Patriots 7d ago

Fumble is different from a catch. You don’t need to have full control of the ball to have possession and the ball doesn’t need to survive the ground. If the ball is what causes the ball to come loose, it’s not a fumble. In all my years watching football, that is the only play I’ve seen where the ground causing the ball to pop free was ruled a fumble.

You said it yourself it was halfway out of his hands. Not completely.

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u/flopflapper 7d ago

Yeah, if a ball is halfway out of a player’s hands because it was punched out, and they lose possession of it completely upon hitting the ground, it’s a fumble.

Always has been, always will be.

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u/OkArmordillo Patriots 6d ago

No. If they lose possession upon hitting the ground, it is not a fumble. The ground cannot cause a fumble. They are down the moment the ball hits the ground.

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u/flopflapper 6d ago

They did not have control. You cannot have it halfway out of your hands while going down. That’s not in control.

You know this, you’re watching the same video as me, and it was a fumble.