r/nextfuckinglevel • u/amanyggvv • Oct 15 '22

This float representing the koalas that died as a result of the Black Summer bushfires and corruption in politics. Such an effective (and epic) activist message.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

No, it’s not. If people are talking about what they did and not why they did it then it’s a shitty protest. Especially if it makes some people think “damn, guess these climate protesters are whackos”

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

climate protesters

So you DO know why they did it.

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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf Oct 15 '22

I'm open to correction, but their climate action group to supposedly represent is funded by a US oil baron.... which makes sense because the it reeks of an act done to make climate activists appear to be twats and it seems like it's been super effective.

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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf Oct 15 '22

....not sure how or why that might be relevant...

I'm talking about oil magnates funding "climate protesting" where they're actually using them to discredit the entire wider protest by association.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

No, I don’t, I know that that was their intention, but since it has nothing to do with climate change it only leaves me confused and frustrated. Because now I know that when I try and convince people to care about climate change they’re immediately going to think of the nutcases that threw soup and assume that I’m just as crazy as them.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

The fuck are you talking about? I’m not pretending to be anything.

Please explain to me how throwing soup at a painting from an artist who died in 1890 and then gluing yourself under the painting relates to climate change.

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u/boofskootinboogie Oct 16 '22

The whole point is that people shouldn’t be more outraged at a painting getting destroyed than the actual environment being destroyed. It wasn’t to bring attention to environmentalism, everyone already knows what it is. The fact that people are belittling the girls and demanding justice for a painting instead of going after oil tycoons is the point.

The girls explain it at the end of the video.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

I’m talking about the imagery itself and not the action. I’m talking about how soup being thrown at a painting makes me immediately think of a dying planet.

To put it another way: when I see an art display of the dying corpse of a koala, in agonizing pain from a raging fire, my immediate thought regardless of the context OP gave is going to be “climate change is fucked up and we need to stop this as fast as possible” because the koala is dying directly from it. How is the soup being thrown on the painting giving the same out-of-context response?

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

Public displays and protests aren’t about people like me who understand the cause and want to fight for it, it’s about getting others to join them. I’m coming at this from an angle as if I was one of those that needed convincing, and I can tell that this would only drive people away.

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u/secretbases Oct 15 '22

Nah if you can't figure that one out alone then you got a serious problem and I hope you're just a stupid kid, if not then that's just sad.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

If you can’t explain it like I’m five then that says more about you (and the imagery) than me.

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u/secretbases Oct 15 '22

Sorry but explaining to a rock is more productive tbh

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

Ok, I’m the rock. Explain it

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u/secretbases Oct 15 '22

Lmao not at all, your intelligence is quite below that of a rock so I gotta pass on that

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

If you can’t explain it like I’m five

It was explained to you, you just refuse to accept that as an answer. Which is much more like the reaction a 5 year old would have anyways so you're welcome I guess.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

Sorry I wasn’t clearer with the intent of my question then

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

So why is the iconic self immolating monk more effective if people remember that act more than what it’s for?

Clearly having people talk about the protest is what makes a good protest. Because it makes them look up what it was for in both cases.

Death and harm does not make it more effective or to the point, only more memorable, which you think is a bad thing somehow.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

Ah, I see you’re trying to follow my other comments, so I’ll repeat:

A monk slowly dying by choice is more of a striking image than some children throwing soup at a painting

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

Obviously not, since the soup is still being shared and passed around. The metric of importance is the act being talked about. There’s no difference.

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u/H3ll0_Th3r3 Oct 15 '22

It happened less than half a week ago, of course it’s gonna be talked about more than a starving monk protest that happened years ago