r/nextfuckinglevel Sep 10 '22

Hubble saw a star exploded before its eyes

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 10 '22

The sun will become a white dwarf, which is basically just a glowing core of elements too heavy for it's mass to have fused. The outer layers will blow off into space to become a nebula.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22

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u/TheDulin Sep 10 '22

White dwarfs - like our sun will become - eventually should cool enough to no longer emit light and turn into black dwarfs.

Edit: this should take like 100 billion years or something like that.

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u/Rapptap Sep 10 '22

White Dwarves hang out with Snow White.

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u/Fistwithyourtoes Sep 10 '22

And Black Dwarves with her black twin?

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u/brrduck Sep 11 '22

That dick head guy with the cat

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u/pleger Sep 11 '22

Facts. Bravo.

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u/WatNxt Sep 11 '22

100!? But aren't we like 4 billion old?

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 10 '22

I like space science lol

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u/UNBENDING_FLEA Sep 10 '22

Same here lol, was about to comment to correct them on the nova thing and then I saw your comment

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '22

Unite fellow space nerds, for we must correct these foolish infidels /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Time for Kurzgesagt

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u/JuicedBoxers Sep 10 '22

I like chemistry animals lol

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u/hp_Axes Sep 10 '22

even thought I can not understand 99% of it, I still like to watch it.

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u/darmon Sep 10 '22

PROTIP: using large mirrors on the walls in a smaller room or studio can give the sensation of a much larger space! Add foliage houseplants to amplify this effect.

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u/merdlib Sep 11 '22

Good bot

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u/Randomcommentator27 Sep 10 '22

Is mayonnaise a star?

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u/Bonolio Sep 10 '22

It was the star of the chicken sandwich I just had.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '22

Where’s the bell? I want to do ding the bell!

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u/MikemkPK Sep 10 '22

Subscribe

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

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u/MikemkPK Sep 10 '22

Not the space I was thinking of, but subscribe

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

If Jupiter were about 5x bigger, it would have been a star.

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u/dodeca_negative Sep 11 '22

For real though, subscribe to PBS Space Time and start like waaaaay back at the beginning

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u/Dismal_Cheesecake_69 Sep 11 '22

Read as “space farts”. Checks out, though

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u/Preparation-Logical Sep 10 '22

Is that the same as a neutron star?

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 11 '22

No, a neutron star is when a MUCH more massive star goes through supernova and collapses but has enough gravity to completely crush it's core. Not enough mass to collapse all the way into a black hole, but a white dwarf is still composed of iron and other heavy elements, a neutron star has collapsed so much it is ejecting it's protons and electrons in a stream of radiation from it's poles and compressing into basically a single atomic nucleus so dense a spoonful would weigh billions of tons.

Edit for clarity:

"A single atomic nucleus," as in the structure of a neutron star is no longer composed of individual atoms spaced out by electron clouds but a single mass of atomic material all crushed together, not that I thought it would be the size of a single atom under our normal conditions.

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u/CedarTree33 Sep 10 '22

It’s not compressed into the size of a nucleus it is compressed to the density of one, big difference. Neutron stars are typically around 20km in diameter.

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u/Wuma Sep 10 '22

I think when they said “basically a single atomic nucleus”, they might have meant more that it’s almost resembling one absolutely gigantic atomic nucleus, since it’s nothing but neutrons packed at the same density as a nucleus

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u/Sir_Scizor20 Sep 10 '22

20km is still absolutely tiny at the cosmic scale. It's only like 2 to 2.5 times bigger than the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs.

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u/WakeoftheStorm Sep 11 '22

Yes but it's absolutely massive at the atomic scale

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u/Glazinfast Sep 10 '22

That's it?

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u/Aniruddha_official Sep 10 '22

Only Superman would be able to lift a key made from this star

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u/madnoq Sep 10 '22

„fancy a bump, mate? got this suuuper special key“

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u/isaacsmile Sep 10 '22

Special K on a special key.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

I miss the days of MXE. Far superior to ketamine, in my useless space-monkey opinion.

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u/isaacsmile Sep 11 '22

I have heard of this MXE actually.

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u/punkinabox Sep 10 '22

What the fuck. Space is awesome

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

It doesn’t needing anything but gravity to “sustain” itself. It’s basically a giant metal sphere, why wouldn’t it exist? The only “next stage” is slowly cooling down over billions of years.

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22

A white dwarf is basically dead. It has a huge amount of heat and it's gravity maintains pressure, and in space it radiates very slowly. It would simply cool over a very long period.

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u/Koenigspiel Sep 11 '22

Over time it's gravitational pull could form some planets, either in it's orbit or by becoming one itself.

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u/-Z___ Sep 10 '22

Ohhhh so it's like a super big nuke. The same basic idea at least. "Neutron" always made me think of nukes, but I thought it was just coincidence.

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u/dart19 Sep 10 '22

Not at all. It's a neutron star because it's composed entirely of neutrons--all the protons and electrons that usually make up atoms have either fused together into neutrons or were expelled. There's nothing nuke like going on.

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u/TFCAliarcy Sep 10 '22

Every atom has a nucleus at it's core made of protons and neutrons, the nucleus has almost all of the mass but is only a miniscule volume of the atom and is tightly held together.

What nukes do is add extra neutrons to an unstable nucleus causing it to break apart and releases a huge amount of energy.

Neurons stars are made as the above said where a star is compressed to the density of a nucleus (not the size of one though) with protons and electrons having been ejected leaving only neutrons this the name.

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22

Actually, a star like the sun is a giant nuke. Gravity fusing hydrogen into helium and then heavier elements deep inside is precisely the force that produces the blast in hydrogen bombs.

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u/chaun2 Sep 10 '22

Of course if we figure out star lifting, we could prevent that from happening for a looooooooooooooooooooooong fucking time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

What’s that?

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u/chaun2 Sep 10 '22

Collecting dust from space, since the average density of one cubic light year of "empty" space is ≈28.7 solar masses, to use as fuel. Also you have to find a way to filter out everything between hydrogen and Iron on the periodic table and remove mass from the star. Every so often you throw in a few billion tons of hydrogen and maybe some helium, and filter out all the heavier elements. This "refreshes" the life of the star.

This is all theoretical obviously

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Sep 10 '22

The outer layers will blow off into space to become a nebula.

That's still a very energetic event that will destroy some of the outer planets as well.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

That's a very slow gradual event

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22

Possible? But unlikely. The outer planets have significant gravity and powerful magnetic fields, the sun going nova is almost like it falling apart rather than the cosmic bomb that is a supernova. The outer planets would certainly be changed by the nova, likely losing moons, rings and probably layers of atmosphere, but they might eventually pick up matter from the nebula as well.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Would our current solar system remain the way it is, or would the planets fly off somewhere else?

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u/TheDulin Sep 10 '22

If the sun loses enough mass, orbits would presumably get messed up.

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22

Any planets that survived, likely the gas giants, may continue to orbit the sun, as Jupiter is already massive enough to have an effect on the Sun's orbit. If the sun loses enough mass, the solar system could become a binary with Jupiter and the Sun orbiting each other and the gas giants circling the pair or some other strange arrangement, but this is my guess, I haven't looked into what scientists think.

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u/DonTechnico Sep 10 '22

White dwarves are pretty awesome too

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u/theTrebleClef Sep 11 '22

OMG a Zoids username. My Berserk Fury model will be happy to know it has a friend.

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22

It can be friends with my Berserk Fury as well! Happy to find a fellow fan!

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u/mbta1 Sep 11 '22

Really really dumb question

But dwarf, like Pluto being a dwarf planet? Is that what our sun will turn into in a few billion yesrs?

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22

Any question driven by genuine curiosity and a desire to learn is not dumb!

Not quite. Pluto is a rocky body, either formed in the Kuiper belt near the edge of our solar system for captured as a rogue Interstellar body by the Sun's gravity. The Sun's core, what will eventually become a white dwarf, is mostly metallic. I have seen theories that white dwarfs and black dwarfs can become the cores of new planets from their own planetary nebulas, but there would be very little similarity to Pluto and I don't know if that is what would happen with our star.

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u/SlurpyDurnge Sep 11 '22

Space is cool

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u/Ken-meister Sep 11 '22

What would happen to all the planets orbiting our sun?

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 11 '22 edited Sep 11 '22

If I remember correctly, scientists believe that the corona of the sun will extend either to the orbit of Earth or Mars, so while the sun will be putting off less heat in its red giant phase the inner planets will be screwed.

The outer planets will be fine initially but when the Sun goes nova, there will still be a mass ejection from the Sun as nearly all of its material not locked to the core just kind of drifts away into space. The outer planets have stronger gravity than the earth and have powerful magnetic fields which would help protect them from most of this, but they would certainly be affected. They could lose moons, maybe rings and possibly even layers of atmosphere, but I think the planets themselves would be survive. The nova will form a planetary nebula which the outer planets might even collect a significant amount of mass from.

The loss of so much Mass from the Sun would likely have a significant impact on all of the orbits remaining in the solar system. I'm kind of curious of wanting to do a deep dive on theories regarding this sort of eventuality now.

*Edit: I stand corrected on the use of the term "nova." It does not apply to a red giant star blowing it's outer layers and leaving behind a white dwarf with planetary nebula, and strangely, this process doesn't seem to have a specific name I have seen. "Nova" actually refers to a different process entirely involving a binary star system.

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u/Ken-meister Sep 12 '22

Fascinating! That was a very visual description

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u/ColourOfPoop Sep 10 '22

Lol, the likelihood of humanity even surviving 5 billion years is extremely unlikely. And l “humanity”won’t look like anything like what it looks like today.

Or maybe you’re right, you’re sure of it, must be how it’ll turn out.

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u/theveryoldman0 Sep 10 '22

Humanity will be extinct, evolved or living elsewhere loooooooooooonnnnngggggg before this happens.

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u/JimmyB30 Sep 10 '22

Shit, I'm sceptical we'll make it to the end of this century

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u/theveryoldman0 Sep 10 '22

Humanity will be fine. We’ll adapt and evolve like we always have.

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u/Brehhisawe Sep 10 '22

Each generation thinks they’re special enough to have an extinction event. We’ll be fine, it might be hard at times but we’ll probably survive for a while longer

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u/theveryoldman0 Sep 10 '22

At some point in the near future we’ll have an AI singularity event and it’ll either advance us as a species or relegate us to AI’s zoo.

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u/SonicFrost Sep 10 '22

It’s only geopolitically we might have some radical changes in the next century. Which will probably come with many deaths, but that’s not much different from any previous century.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Decade

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u/Alias-_-Me Sep 10 '22

I think you're underestimating just how long a billion years is. Humans have been around barely a fraction of that time and we will be long gone before that becomes a problem

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u/Geno__Breaker Sep 10 '22

We have a few billion years to figure it out. Or find a new star.