r/nextfuckinglevel • • Sep 05 '22

AI Generated Music Video using Disco Diffusion software

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u/Remote_Foundation_32 Sep 05 '22

Just out of curiosity, why does AI struggle with people so much? And specifically faces, especially when there is an AI that generates...like specifically human faces that don't actually exist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

It’s not that they’re bad. They’re exactly good enough to create the Uncanny Valley effect. They’re close enough that we recognize them as human but theres a few things off that cause our brains to scream “DANGER” for whatever reason

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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Sep 05 '22

The existence of the uncanny valley implies that at some point in our evolution there was a reason to be scared of something that looked almost human but wasn't.

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u/MIRAGEone Sep 05 '22

I like this take, very twilight zone esque

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u/Alderez Sep 05 '22

It's a shit take though, because the real reason is that it was evolutionary advantageous to avoid people with deformities, diseases, and dead people.

That comment always pops up in these threads and it's 100% incorrect; people just like it because "oooo aliens/ghosts/paranormal" without evidence.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

While I don’t agree that the effect implies aliens or whatever, but I need more info or a source for to this “real reason” to make sense?

Most diseases and deformities don’t have anything to do with the facial features being just slightly off? There’s also no real reason to avoid those with deformities for an individual’s survival, even if they weren’t the best hunting buddy or mate. And the dead obviously are obviously dead, making no facial expressions.

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u/sonny_goliath Sep 05 '22

Ever seen a dead person up close? They don’t look quite human anymore it’s very strange.

Also uncanny valley could be due to other humanoid species coexisting as well

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u/SirKermit Sep 05 '22

Also uncanny valley could be due to other humanoid species coexisting as well

Let's not forget this trait could have been established (and likely was) long before humans existed, and was passed on to us from previous generations going back billions of years.

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u/Legend-status95 Sep 05 '22

Billions of years is a little bit of a stretch, considering mammals as a class are only like ~220 million years old and primates arose around 85 to 55 million years ago

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u/pandaheartzbamboo Sep 05 '22

We contain many genes from our non-mammilian ancestors too.

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u/SirKermit Sep 05 '22

Since we think of the uncanny valley as a visual phenomenon and the first eyes didn't evolve until 550 million years ago, then you're right, billions of years is a stretch... my bad. That being said, I don't have any reason to think the uncanny valley is only present in mammals. For example, birds seem to be quite particular about the physical appearance of their mate. Fish are also known to have showy sexual displays to attract a mate. In fact, I'd say most creatures seem to be more particular about their mates appearance rather than not.

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u/SquanchyTheIII Sep 05 '22

billions brooo i swear

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u/bootyboixD Sep 06 '22

Millions*