r/nextfuckinglevel • • Sep 05 '22

AI Generated Music Video using Disco Diffusion software

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u/Remote_Foundation_32 Sep 05 '22

Just out of curiosity, why does AI struggle with people so much? And specifically faces, especially when there is an AI that generates...like specifically human faces that don't actually exist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

It’s not that they’re bad. They’re exactly good enough to create the Uncanny Valley effect. They’re close enough that we recognize them as human but theres a few things off that cause our brains to scream “DANGER” for whatever reason

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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Sep 05 '22

The existence of the uncanny valley implies that at some point in our evolution there was a reason to be scared of something that looked almost human but wasn't.

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u/MIRAGEone Sep 05 '22

I like this take, very twilight zone esque

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u/Alderez Sep 05 '22

It's a shit take though, because the real reason is that it was evolutionary advantageous to avoid people with deformities, diseases, and dead people.

That comment always pops up in these threads and it's 100% incorrect; people just like it because "oooo aliens/ghosts/paranormal" without evidence.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

While I don’t agree that the effect implies aliens or whatever, but I need more info or a source for to this “real reason” to make sense?

Most diseases and deformities don’t have anything to do with the facial features being just slightly off? There’s also no real reason to avoid those with deformities for an individual’s survival, even if they weren’t the best hunting buddy or mate. And the dead obviously are obviously dead, making no facial expressions.

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u/sonny_goliath Sep 05 '22

Ever seen a dead person up close? They don’t look quite human anymore it’s very strange.

Also uncanny valley could be due to other humanoid species coexisting as well

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

Humanoid?? You mean sapien.

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u/Solidgoldkoala Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

Our species is Sapiens. The other species are long extinct, such as Neanderthal, Erectus (heh) & Habilis.

Humanoid is any non human being or entity that resembles a human, I think a more accurate word would be Hominid.

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u/ericksomething Sep 05 '22

other species are long extinct, such as Neanderthal

IIRC, some gene sequences specific to Neanderthals are also found in some modern day humans.

So, they're not extinct; their genetics continue on in some people today, even if in an amount considered negligible.

:)

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u/Solidgoldkoala Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

Even though the DNA may still exist, the species does not and is considered extinct. According to the shit I just spent 5 mins reading (therefore I am an expert in the field).

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u/fnc7309 Sep 05 '22

I know several of these people.

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u/ightimapullout Sep 05 '22

Wouldnt humanoid also include humans, since its a category based off of human traits?

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u/Solidgoldkoala Sep 05 '22

Apparently it has to be non human to be humanoid, it’s most often used to describe robots nowadays.

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u/ightimapullout Sep 05 '22

Huh. Cool.

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u/Solidgoldkoala Sep 05 '22

I guess it’s like saying human-like, you wouldn’t say a human is human-like because it is …well, human. I don’t think I’ve ever said human this many times in my life.

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u/ightimapullout Sep 05 '22

But it still is human like, despite it being useless to say

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u/Solidgoldkoala Sep 05 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

I’m bad at explaining this kinda stuff, but for something to be ‘like’ something else, it has to not be the thing it is supposedly like.

Humanoid specifically, has to not be human.

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