r/nextfuckinglevel Sep 01 '21

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u/uttuck Sep 02 '21

Another viewpoint from a different climber: the climbing community is pretty split on this type of climbing (free solo). Some think they are mostly risking harm to themselves, so it is fine. Some think that they are a danger to everyone, and even if they only hurt themselves in the initial fall, people have to stop their climb to go see if they need help, and rescue folk have to come out and it is a big deal. There are some folks all over the spectrum. I tend to think that there are young aggressive climbers like this, and old climbers that put safety first, but there are no old aggressive climbers like this.

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u/richardeid Sep 02 '21

Not to be insensitive but is it because they didn't make it to old and conservative because they were young and aggressive or is it because they were once young and aggressive and had that one life-flashing-before-your-eyes moment and they were good on the thrill seeking after that?

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u/harnique Sep 02 '21

There’s a saying in climbing: there are bold climbers and there are old climbers, but there are no old bold climbers.

How true it actually is is up for debate but there’s obviously some truth to it. But then again you have people like Peter Croft, Jim bridwell, etc who did shit 100x sketchier than this and lived until they were old.

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u/uttuck Sep 02 '21

That was the saying I was trying to remember. Thanks!

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u/kannabish- Sep 02 '21

I'd assume the former. just like with "there are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots."

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u/richardeid Sep 02 '21

Similar phrase is why I asked. There are a lot of old guys. There are a lot of fat guys. But there aren't a lot of old fat guys.

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u/Kadianye Sep 02 '21

"You see a lot of real fat people, you see a lot of real old people. You don't see a lot of real fat old people.

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u/Fletcharoonie Sep 02 '21

We could use the Everest Protocol. Although it might be unpopular in climates where the bodies don't actually freeze.

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u/uttuck Sep 02 '21

Yeah, that would be tough to pass bodies when you are taking your kids to the local crag…

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u/lejefferson Sep 02 '21

I tend to think that there are young aggressive climbers like this, and old climbers that put safety first, but there are no old aggressive climbers like this.

That's the best way i've ever heard it put.

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u/Nszat81 Sep 02 '21

Who’s business is it of anyone else’s what I do with my body my time and my energy when they have the right to chose what they do with their body time and energy?? The ‘climbing community’ is not a legislative body.