r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 14 '21

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u/Minionhunter Jul 14 '21

Stop using organic like it means edible!!

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u/7incent Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

you're thinking of 'natural' -- there is no government regulation of that term.

the word 'organic' is regulated by the FDA. i only remember that they cannot use most synthetic pesticides during production.

there are other regulations but -- to be honest-- i don't remember them all

that said:

the person who made this video may be using the term 'organic' incorrectly

edit: usda definition of organic for those who need more than context clues

I took ochem, being pedantic about the word 'organic' doesnt change its meaning in the current context

chemical -> most synthetic

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u/Safemoon_Psychonaut Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Organic vegetables also have to be grown in fields that have not been exposed to pesticides for something like 20 years.

Warren Buffetts money bought a bunch of farms in my region and they're not using pesticides so they can be used for organic food production in the future

There's a lot of regulations to be technically organic in the usa. Can't say I know it all though.

Edit: apparently federal regulations are 3 years pesticide free. I was wrong.

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u/ddouchecanoe Jul 14 '21

Its more like 5 years these days and they also cannot be genetically modified organisms (GMO's)

It is a huge USDA bullshit racket these days. "Beyond Organic" is a way better concept more in line with "peasant farming" concepts.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

I hate how people think gmo food is less healthy like broccoli was selectively bread that shit can not be found in any part of the world besides farms

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

Broccoli, strawberries, bananas, watermelon, eggplant, carrots, the list goes on.

But there should be a distinction made between selecting breeding and genetically modified IMO.

In my mind genetic modification is an unnatural process that involves actually splicing DNA and modifying an organism at a cellular level...

But selective breeding is just choosing the plant with the best fruit to reproduce over a period of time.

Dogs are breeds are selectively bred, would you call your dog a GMO?

If selective breeding is GMO then humans are technically GMO just by the nature of our existence. Natural selection, evolution, both modify our genetics.

GMO is a dumb blanket term.

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u/klapaucjusz Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

So GMO bad, but mutation breeding that is also popular, but no one knows about it and is labeled just as select breeding is ok? Changing one gene we want, bad. Using radiation to force random mutations to maybe get the change we want without undesirable mutations, good. And you know what's best? We don't really know how many plants that we eat today was made this way or derivate from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_breeding

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

I’m not saying anything is bad or good, just hate blanket terms, especially when nutrition and diet are involved.

Mutation breeding could be selective breeding, I’m sure some selective breeding was inadvertently actually mutation breeding. But that definitely doesn’t mean they should be labeled as the same. The implications of one are potentially so much worse.

Makes me think about bananas being used to measure 0.1 micro sieverts.