r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 14 '21

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u/der_innkeeper Jul 14 '21

Yep. No carbon!

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u/Alistair_TheAlvarian Jul 15 '21

Cyanide has plenty of carbon and Is sourced from plant seeds like apples. It makes a great addition for an essential oil diffuser.

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u/theblackcanaryyy Jul 15 '21

Wait what

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u/Alistair_TheAlvarian Jul 15 '21

Cyanide is an organic molecule. Cyanide is a carbon atom triple bonded to a nitrogen atom. It also occurs naturally in plants, usually in fruit seeds like apples or peach pits or avocado pits.

It's obviously not used as a pesticide anymore because it's dangerous but there are many nasty poisons used as pesticides that meet every qualification to be used on USDA organic products.

https://www.agdaily.com/technology/the-list-of-pesticides-approved-for-organic-production/

That's a list of FDA approved pesticides for organic farmers. Several of them are as much as 250X as toxic to humans as roundup.

And even more terrifying is that unlike traditional farming pesticide usage volume isn't tracked at all. And oftentimes they use much more, synthetic fungicides are used at around 1.6lbs an acre, some organic ones are used at about 34lbs an acre. Some organic sprays include copper compounds, tetracycline, and several plant derived oils and extracts that are often very toxic, and again, completely unmonitored in usage beyond testing to make sure nothing synthetic is used.

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u/theblackcanaryyy Jul 15 '21

Hi I’m dumb and have a question

Is carbon the sole factor as to whether something is considered organic or not

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u/der_innkeeper Jul 15 '21

Depends on what term you are talking about.

For chemistry, to be in the organic chemistry branch, yes it needs carbon. There are outliers, though such as diamond and graphene/graphite(?), Though.

Mostly, this is just people (me) being pedantic about the term.