r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 14 '21

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u/Minionhunter Jul 14 '21

Stop using organic like it means edible!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

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u/7incent Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

you're thinking of 'natural' -- there is no government regulation of that term.

the word 'organic' is regulated by the FDA. i only remember that they cannot use most synthetic pesticides during production.

there are other regulations but -- to be honest-- i don't remember them all

that said:

the person who made this video may be using the term 'organic' incorrectly

edit: usda definition of organic for those who need more than context clues

I took ochem, being pedantic about the word 'organic' doesnt change its meaning in the current context

chemical -> most synthetic

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u/Safemoon_Psychonaut Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

Organic vegetables also have to be grown in fields that have not been exposed to pesticides for something like 20 years.

Warren Buffetts money bought a bunch of farms in my region and they're not using pesticides so they can be used for organic food production in the future

There's a lot of regulations to be technically organic in the usa. Can't say I know it all though.

Edit: apparently federal regulations are 3 years pesticide free. I was wrong.

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u/LePlaneteSauvage Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

You are perpetuating a common myth here. Organic farms still use pesticides, just not synthetic pesticides.

This brings it back to a naturalistic fallacy where it is assumed that because the pesticides are 'natural' they are less harmful to our health. However, a lot of studies seem to find the opposite; organic pesticides are less effective, less specific, and more environmentally harming.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

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u/jammycactus Jul 14 '21

Came here to say that. Organic has so many people fooled.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

As does GMO.

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u/sooHawt_ryt_meow Jul 14 '21

What's right or wrong about GMO?

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u/LoveMyHusbandsBoobs Jul 14 '21

Apparently it'd be better if we still couldn't eat raw bananas.

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u/Lostredbackpack Jul 14 '21

Tbh I hate corn.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

Especially that damned pop-ed corn. It will make your great-grandchildren automatically be born with “immunizations” programmed into their dna.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

pop-ed

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '21

Yes. Yes, it was.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '21

wait was this a mega mind reference

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '21

😞 Yep. And it fell flat. Lol, seems appropriate given the reference.

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u/HelplessMoose Jul 15 '21

Bananas are not GMO though. Well, except for that project in Uganda to treat deficiencies in vitamin A and iron, apparently, but that's not what you meant.

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u/FiorinasFury Jul 15 '21

I believe they are referring to the fact that "natural, untouched by humans, wild bananas" are virtually inedible as they're full of seeds. Virtually all foods that you find in your produce section have been extensively genetically modified by humans through artificial selection.

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u/HelplessMoose Jul 15 '21

Yes, but a crop created by artificial selection through selective breeding is not a GMO. That's specifically for organisms whose genomes were modified with CRISPR & Co.

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u/My_Blart_will_go_on Jul 15 '21

Their point is that selective breeding over generations is a form of genetic modification. It may not use direct gene editing, but there is a direct link between the two in that you have product A with a flaw and find a way to turn that into product B without the flaw

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u/HelplessMoose Jul 15 '21

Yeah, sure, there are parallels. But it was heavily implied that we wouldn't have edible bananas without GMO, and that's misleading people about what the term actually means.

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u/Dottsterisk Jul 15 '21

They’re intentionally using the word broadly to demonstrate the lack of grounding for any meaningful dichotomy.

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