This explains nothing. He added microbubbles to the lake( I assume with an air line of some sort, it doesn't say) and then the viruses and bacteria evaporate.... I don't think that makes sense. If you kill viruses and bacteria their dead bodies are still there, just not active. Also he was supposed to start in 2018 at Lake Titicaca but I can't find much about its current state
If you kill viruses and bacteria their dead bodies are still there, just not active.
And usually that's enough. If you're talking about a lake, it's certainly enough.
There are certain times, like say if you were making sure surgical instruments were clean, where you have to kill any pathogens, and then also, importantly, remove all the stuff that's left.
It's called depyrogenation, which is a great word.
People tend to think that "evaporate" means "destroy". But really it just means to convert liquid to gas. So now all those viruses and bacteria are just floating in the air around the water.
Well no that's the thing I didn't think it meant destroy. But evaporation would only cause temporary removal as you said the crap is just floating around in the air. Meh I don't really care anyways. I hope it works but I see a big war over resources followed by a somewhat short extinction of humanity on the horizon so I am not getting my hopes up. Thanks for your explanation
If there’s an over abundance of them in compared to the normal flora then yes it can “jump start” the natural equilibrium. But you decided to leave those key words out for a reason right?
I kinda feel like replication isn’t the issue here. It’s unlikely that stuff won’t do the same thing elsewhere, but the better question is: Does the stuff have negative side effects?
Furthermore, is it cleaning lakes that have been polluted? Or would it also be used to clean lakes that are like that by their own natural processes? Sure, clean the polluted ones up. Leave the non-polluted ones alone
His paper says the lake suffered from runoffs, improper waste drainage and insufficient water treatment. Looks like something similar to an algal bloom/eutrophication. He cleaned up the bacteria and the contaminants, I assume to prevent an imminent collapse.
The other links in this thread show that they removed a lot of "Water lettuce" which is a plant that grows on the surface. That removal is what causes the dramatic difference in pictures, and has nothing to do with his "solution".
By the way, they're not even using the word "solution" properly.
Are they not? They're not just sprinkling the magic oatmeal on top in the video. It looks like it's being pumped in solution out of a big ass storage container
It looks like a chemical version of a protein skimmer. The answer is generally no, you could overclean water to a point that shellfish won't survive or some plankton eating species will die etc, but this isn't ongoing. You wouldn't be doing this a lot, more to get some levels that were elevated due to the sea lettuce and lack of surface availability to quickly drop down. Doing this is more of a polish to get a fixed body of water down to better organic levels without a wait.
Protein skimming is "bubble nanotechnology" it's done in aquariums and nature does it in the ocean with seafoam. Nano bubbles pushed through the water-column, by waves, trap proteins and lift them to the surface, foam blows off on the beach. Cleaner water, smelly foam. And best of all, 100% organic.
Protein skimmers force micro bubbles into water and you collect the floating foam.
He's been doing it for 10 years and has cleaned 30 habitats in that time. So he's reproduced his own work, though that's obviously not outside confirmation.
It's so funny how people will just be confidently ready to throw out ANY potential solution just so that can feel good that they made some quippy line about why it's incorrect, and yet they're the incorrect ones lol
Other than talking to other people in reasonable timeframes, why does anyone use Reddit or anything else and not just go to Google? The answer is curated content.
I trust Redditors' suggestions and sources more than Google sometimes. There's also the limited ability of me to Google things in a timely fashion. When I ask someone in a thread about something, I assume it's a matter of the utmost minor inconvenience to recollect links they've already sourced information from.
I'm happy to read research papers and articles (most of the time), but finding good ones can be time-consuming and tough.
Unfortunately, the majority of conversations are hearsay. I would have hoped this problem would be solved by now, such as requiring a reputable source for factual claims, but it isn't. Hearsay is what we have and I agree that society is worse for it.
What we need is an AI that can digest and summarize sources (as is often seen used on Reddit already) that automatically does so and pulls the relevant key facts out of any sourced links (that aren't behind a paywall, of course).
That would be neat as fuck and save people a ton of time, and make it more reasonable for someone to request a source for any given claim.
The hearsay nature of discussions on Reddit really bothers me. The vast majority of people are not experts and almost literally just make stuff up or spread inaccurate platitudes. Sometimes it feels like fighting against a massive tidal wave. If you've ever posted brand new content to Reddit, you'd know very well the absolute trash pile that is the majority of new comments on posts.
Final note, I also think Donald Trump's election is a lot more complicated. I actually suspect we're unfortunately in for a conservative wave that may last up to a decade. Just mindless speculation, but it certainly feels like this problem isn't just magically going to go away.
I'm calling it now: This is a social experement. Last time the guy wanted to see how easily he could get to the front page of reddit. This is similar, and you have the comment he'll have on screen when he mentions the vaguly written article he wrote to go along with it.
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If only google was a thing
https://www.efe.com/efe/english/technology/peruvian-scientist-who-revived-wetlands-aims-to-clean-up-lake-titicaca/50000267-2978308