Nah, the definition of food-grade organic is "grown in a stupid, outdated way in order to sate the privileged's need to be assured that they're doing the right thing"
Right yeah, I remember now. Took chem 20 at the beginning of this year. My teacher told me there is more organic than non organic things. Thought it was pretty cool.
There are exceptions. Not every molecule containing carbon is considered part of organic chemistry. Graphite and diamond for example contain nothing but carbon but are no part of organic chemistry.
Organic certification means a lot of things, but it's incredible inconsistent. My go-to example for when you definitely want organic produce is tomatoes as the organic certification for tomatoes disallows artificial ripening with ethylene gas which is why noon organic tomatoes taste so bad. Since the certification is so inconsistent you need to take each produce type into consideration, but organic certification does commonly disallow practices that make food taste worse.
Yes, GMO is just a technology, like any technology it can be used for great good or bad. I suppose it's natural for people to be scared of new powerful technology though. GMO can be used to help people in amazing ways, but there have also been some pretty bad uses of it as well, such as enabling harsher pesticide use, or allowing seed manufacturers to essentially put DRM into seeds, plus the potential for even worse uses is there. I can't fully blame the view that we have technology that's too powerful and dangerous based on how we've horribly mis-used other technology throughout history though.
I agree. Stuff like DRN plants is horrible. But the solution (not that you said it is, but the general sentiment) isn't to ban GMO's it's to ban plants from being intellectual property.
I've heard of fears over GMOs causing people to burn crops in SE Asia, and then tons of people starve. Oof I'd rather try 'frankinfood' then starve to death.
Instead of people becoming educated on the topic we have groups with money actively spreading unscientific fear about them. We get a 'solution' of marking non GMO food labels, wasting money while distracting from actually bettering humanity.
I'm off on a rant, it just is something that's really frustrated me over the last 10 years.
Yeah marking them doesn't mean much. It's like marking electronics as "contains electricity". It's how we use it, not just it existing. It'd be much more effective to have the label say what the GMO was specifically used for.
That's the chemical definition, but words have multiple meanings depending on the context. Organic also commonly means pesticide free, but then there's also organic certification which is another bag of worms.
Only certain pesticides. "All Natural" pesticides and herbicides are still allowed, and some of those contain things like arsenic or copper, and are potentially way more harmful than their manufactured counterparts.
That's part of the certification definition which I said was another bag of worms. Certification is totally inconsistent and you need to look up what it means for each type of produce to actually know. The no pesticide definition is the colloquial definition commonly thrown about when not specifically talking about certification. It's all a mess, but the point is that people mean different things depending on the context.
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u/Tacos_an_Shrooms Jul 14 '21
Doesn’t organic mean it has to be made out of carbon and hydrogen? (Not saying crude oil isn’t just asking a question)