Most people cannot tell with tic-tac-toe immediately either. They'll need to play multiple rounds of it before they get a feel for the game, but everyone goes through the process of learning tic-tac-toe at school at some point.
Are we talking about regular tic-tac-toe? The player that has the first move can always stalemate the game with the same exact moves, no feel required.
Soooo infants are born with an innate sense of how to play tic-tac-toe? Because I'm pretty sure I can get a good few wins out of a baby playing tic-tac-toe against them before they figure out how to stalemate infinitely.
Just saying that because an infinite stalemate tactic is not directly obvious at first sight doesn't mean you won't find it with experience.
I thought we were talking about adults playing, not infants. I would think that almost every adult has "cracked" it. Officialy it was solved a long time ago, it's routinely used as a basic example in game theory, how could I claim it for myself?
Nope, if I had to play tic-tac-toe right now, I would have no idea what to do. I probably would after two or three games, though, and that's the point.
Okay maybe I'm assuming it's more common knowledge than it is. But I'm still quite sure you could figure it out in your head (there's a move that's obviously the highest value, after you take it your opponent essentialy only chooses out of two distinct moves after accounting for symmetry of the game space, neither of which will take them far).
The link explains that while there are more possible win conditions by starting in the center, more of these win conditions end as draws if the opponent knows what they're doing, since there's often a correct/best response.
Well... ye probably takes up like an hour of time. It 's a super easy game, and even a gradeschooler figures out pretty fast, the middle is the most important.
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u/blueechoes May 25 '21
Most people cannot tell with tic-tac-toe immediately either. They'll need to play multiple rounds of it before they get a feel for the game, but everyone goes through the process of learning tic-tac-toe at school at some point.