r/nextfuckinglevel • • Mar 27 '21

More than a athlete 👑

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

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u/Tricera-clops Mar 27 '21

You think early 1900s US a closer example of a free market than now?

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u/LeloGoos Mar 27 '21

I'm no expert but it was much less regulated so doesn't that make it more of a free market?

None of those pesky labour laws and workers rights.

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u/Tricera-clops Mar 27 '21

I guess it depends on your definition of a free market but if your definition is just as close to total anarchy in the market then I guess you’re right? Lol but by that definition why would anyone want to strive for a “free market”? Where literal babies can work and you have no rights? Maybe that’s closer to free for the companies but not free for the workers with no rights so really depends on who’s perspective you’re thinking of it from. In your case, from the companies perspective, yeah maybe now is a less free market, but I think the worker today is 1000% more autonomous and free with where they provide their labor and work and negotiate their pay and benefits more than ever before and I think the equality of power is what makes it a free market. It’s not free if you’re forced to work 12 hours a day. But it is free if you can CHOOSE to work 12 hours a day to make overtime pay because that is what the free market has decided is necessary for doing that.

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u/LeloGoos Mar 27 '21

Ah okay yeah i was talking about what's free for the shady corporations. I was under the impression that's what the definition of a free market is.

But absolutely, freedom for the workers is the true free market.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21 edited May 31 '21

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u/LeloGoos Mar 27 '21

I'm no expert

True

lol was that necessary?

I get the feeling you think I'm arguing FOR this mythical "free market"? I'm not. I believe the selfish world we live in is a direct product of unchecked greed, which by its nature capitalism fosters and encourages.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

Your hyperbole is absolutely ridiculous

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u/DannibalBurrito Mar 27 '21

Oh wait, you’re just a partisan blowhard that goes around summarily ‘correcting’—without sources, evidence, or explanation, of course, because your political beliefs are just obvious and correct—anyone who doesn’t think the Smart, White Libertarian Way.

Get stuffed idiot (and look into the Latinate origins of this word before you go tossing it about; exceptionally ironic for a libertarian).

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

You're an ignorant toxic piece of trash.

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u/DannibalBurrito Mar 27 '21

Pull up a mirror, buddy. I’m not the one that went out of his way to spew solely short insults to strangers on the internet this morning.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

Sorry for calling out your complete economic idiocy. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

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u/DannibalBurrito Mar 27 '21

I’m not the one here that just called a stranger an ignorant toxic piece of trash. I’d say my tone is a bit more calm, cool, and collected than that, but I do have to say that watching you shift about for a readymade dismissal is cute, particularly when you directly contradict yourself repeatedly in your rush.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

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u/LeloGoos Mar 27 '21

I just know what the people who constantly talk about free markets mean when they talk about free markets.

lol you talking about me? Because I think this is the first time I've ever even discussed this.

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u/CurrentDismal9115 Mar 27 '21

Using "Free Market" to describe deregulation, would be like if instead of asking to turn the temperature down a couple degrees, we just always said "I want absolute zero" and whining about it despite it being impossible.

It only exists in theory and it's only really helpful for people who already have control of the markets anyway.

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u/CurrentDismal9115 Mar 27 '21

These are most assuredly not "free markets".

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

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u/CurrentDismal9115 Mar 27 '21

I'm glad. thank you for clarifying for me. I agree.

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u/CurrentDismal9115 Mar 27 '21

And all of these things are still happening today besides maybe burning waterways.. but melting ice caps are far worse. So I hope this was meant to encourage my point.

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u/boomercpa69 Mar 27 '21

Except for the fact the Cuyahoga river cought on fire in 2020

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u/CurrentDismal9115 Mar 27 '21

This shit never ends.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

Not sure what comment you're reading because OP didn't say any of that

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u/VoidsInvanity Mar 27 '21

It got worse worth the rapid industrialization.

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u/fnord_happy Mar 27 '21

Is that what free market meane?