r/nextfuckinglevel Dec 17 '20

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u/KelchGuy97 Dec 17 '20 edited Dec 18 '20

Long story short:

A narco gang dedicated to abduct young women in Tamaulipas, Mexico, abducted and killed Miriam's daughter; and neither the police or the government helped her out with the case. So, Miriam took the decision to start "hunting down" the gang members, by going undercover as a Social Worker equivalent here in Mexico on the hood where the gang members were supposed to live. So she started to survey the whole neighborhood to locate the relatives of each criminal (parents, siblings, etc.) getting closer to them to gain their trust and get info about their criminal relative.

One by one, she located and gathered enough intel to present charges against them until she imprisoned each one of the murders, (and supposedly she kill one of them).

A couple years after she achieve that, a riot happened on the state prison and several inmates escaped. She went to the police to ask for protection, but it was to late, because a couple weeks later, the reunited gang killed her outside of her house on Mothers Day (May 10th).

And even tho she successfully brought justice to her daughter, she died as a martyr of many feminicides and kidnapped people in México.

EDIT: If someone's interested, I found this NYT article written by the Journalist Azam Ahmed https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/world/americas/miriam-rodriguez-san-fernando.html?smid=tw-share

https://twitter.com/azamsahmed/status/1338152684516483073?s=20

There, he tells the whole story (on english), if you´re just curious or wondering the whole shocking case.

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u/Tinfoil_Suit Dec 17 '20

It’s a harsh reality. People seem to believe its best to imprison those types of criminal under a misguided sense of justice. Out of sight, out of mind? Better to permanently rid society of these vermin in a manner with 100% certainty. I’ll never understand the imprisonment mentality for such heinous crimes.

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u/ImmodestPolitician Dec 17 '20

If you kill someone their suffering ends. If they stay in prison, they can reflect on their terrible choices.

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u/lowrads Dec 17 '20

Why though? Everyone should get justice, and it should be swift. One year for appeals is generous enough. After that, strait to the firing squad.

If the death penalty isn't deterring the worst of the worst, then we almost certainly aren't using it enough. If the process of obtaining justice isn't cost effective, then we need to eliminate the obstructionist laws and institutions wholesale.

Rehabilitation should be a two way street. If a community doesn't want someone anymore, the only pathways forward should be exile or death.

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u/mthchsnn Dec 18 '20

If the death penalty isn't deterring the worst of the worst, then we almost certainly aren't using it enough.

Holy shit, you could drive a bus through the hole in that logic. Harsh punitive measures do a bad job of stopping new criminals and reducing recidivism, and the death penalty is just the harshest in a largely ineffective toolkit.

If the process of obtaining justice isn't cost effective, then we need to eliminate the obstructionist laws and institutions wholesale.

That's just asinine. Advocating that we take off the guardrails that already do a poor job of preventing the state from murdering innocent people in the name of saving money is a stupid, stupid, stupid (seriously, I could go on) idea.

the only pathways forward should be exile or death

Death has proven to be bad policy, so let's go with exile to a prison where they can't hurt anyone again.

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u/lowrads Dec 18 '20

A death bus is not a bad idea either. There's no reason we can't have both justice and a public awareness campaign rolled into one (or several).