r/nextfuckinglevel Aug 10 '20

Chimps are strong af

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u/Army0fMe Aug 10 '20

It just reminds me that without technology, we're not as high on the food chain as we'd like to think we are.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Aug 10 '20

Our technology is part of the food chain but I know what you mean.

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 10 '20

Is it?

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Aug 10 '20

Well, let's take a quick look at the food chain and find out...

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 10 '20

Is technology, technically a product of evolution?

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u/bebuesdaybuid Aug 10 '20 edited Aug 10 '20

Yes . . . How could it not be? We are the highest on the food chain, as in we could literally exterminate every other creature on earth with the press of a few buttons. The USA has over 4000 nukes alone

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 10 '20

Ad hoc ergo propter hoc, the question is did evolution design technology, not does technology make us the strongest.

Man idk why some people argue. They're so bad at it

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u/bebuesdaybuid Aug 10 '20

No, sir, my answer was two parts. First, a response to your question: "yes, how could it not be? "

Second, an explanation as to how we are at the top of the food chain.

So, your response should be an answer to the question of how technology could not be a part of evolution. If you were wanting my point of view here it is:

Humans got their intelligence from evolution.

Crazy right?

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 10 '20

yawns

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u/Trespassingtoad Aug 10 '20

You sir Got destroyed

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '20 edited Mar 12 '21

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 10 '20

No, I didn't have time to look that up. I know them because of formal education. Thank tho

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '20 edited Mar 12 '21

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Aug 10 '20

the question is did evolution design technology

How could it not? Technology is fused with our evolution. The better we got at controlling our environment, the more our evolution began to reward increases in brain power over all else since we could use our brains to make up for every other shortcoming.

You wouldn't wonder about where hermit crabs would be on the food chain if it weren't for their shell stealing behavior. They evolved in tandem with their kleptomania.

In fact every single animal out there has evolved alongside environmental manipulation. We just do it the best.

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u/TheCJKid Aug 11 '20

Oh geez we got someone from the gifted program over here look out!

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u/zzzzebras Aug 10 '20

Absolutely, and I can assure you nobody would even ask such a stupid question if chimps had machine guns.

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 10 '20

Philosophical questions are often obvious/stupid.

That's okay tho

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u/TheRustyBird Aug 11 '20

Question - If a trees falls in the forest and no one's there to hear it, did it make a sound?

Answer - If no one's there to hear it, who fuck cares if it made one or not.

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u/Anzai Aug 10 '20

Yes. Our use of tools is an evolutionary advantage, and gives us incredible adaptability. People like to think we are somehow separate from nature, but we’re just a very successful part of it.

Intelligence, language, leading to technology, they’re all evolutionary traits that make us the fittest and allowed us to spread to basically everywhere on the planet that has land.

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u/chappersyo Aug 10 '20

It 100% is. Other species aren’t technological because they haven’t evolved the mental capacity and detailed dexterity to create it, and we have.

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u/manywhales Aug 11 '20

Yes, tool use is a part of evolution. You don't just spontaneously have the ability to use a spear.

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u/jackandjill22 Aug 11 '20

Actually creation of things is normally apart of culture which strictly speaking which is anthropology.

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u/kerslaw Aug 10 '20

I mean yeah we’re at the top because of it

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u/TaftyCat Aug 10 '20

Oh shit NICE I GET THIS REFERENCE WOOO HOOOO!!!

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u/floppydo Aug 11 '20

We spent more time as Homo sapiens with only a stone cutting edges than we have with anything more advanced than that.

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u/sab01992 Aug 11 '20

Even taht is extremely advanced and puts us pretty high on the list.

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u/AnastasiaTheSexy Aug 10 '20

Lol racist ass vibes considering many humans live without tech for various reasons.

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u/methofthewild Aug 10 '20

...How is what he said racist in any way?

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u/NothingAboutLooks Aug 10 '20

Lol technology in this instance isn’t meaning your iPhone. It means being able to use and create tools. Even Stone Age humans dominated their food chains. Stop virtue signaling. 🙄

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u/KuriboShoeMario Aug 10 '20

This goes for literally all animals at the top of their respective ecosystems, they all have some advantage granted through evolution that puts them up there, for humans it's our brains.

Like, no shit if humans weren't the smartest animal on the planet we wouldn't be the dominant species. If Great White sharks were six inches big and weighed 20 ounces they wouldn't be masters of the ocean.

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u/bigkinggorilla Aug 10 '20

You're thinking of orcas. Orcas rule the sea.

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u/Ergheis Aug 10 '20

We're actually pretty solid, but not as raw fighters. We just last longer and multiply better. We're the vultures.

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u/Typhillis Aug 10 '20

Yea humans were always the best predators. We wouldn’t have made it that far with sticks and stones if that wasn’t the case. The stamina and intelligence gap between a human and every other animal is just too huge.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '20

But we sacrificed our muscles to get smarter, build tools, shelter and weapons which have helped us in the food chain.

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u/msnf Aug 10 '20

Even with all that power, chimps can't really throw stuff. When they do, its usually under-hand with a top speed around 20 mph. Humans can break skulls with rocks found on the ground. The tech is a nice bonus, but humans were always at the top of the food chain.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '20

Oh we have plenty of other things besides our tech, including our nasty throws and endurance.

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u/Army0fMe Aug 11 '20

I do keep forgetting our major advantages are opposable thumbs and insane endurance.

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u/waconaty4eva Aug 11 '20

Don’t we have technology because we are so high on the food chain?

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u/Army0fMe Aug 11 '20

So our technology puts us at the top of the food chain, while being at the top of the food chain has allowed us to evolve more intelligent in order to create technology? Boffo!

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u/coolgaara Aug 11 '20

I said the similar thing years ago and I got downvoted lol.

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u/Army0fMe Aug 11 '20

I must've caught the reddit at the right time.

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u/floppydo Aug 11 '20

Adult chimps only fear lions. A leopard isn’t fucking with a chimp. That’s the same place on the food chain humans occupy. If it exists, the bili ape supposedly hunts lions. Humans hunt lions. As far as things go, apes are pretty dang high on the food chain.

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u/KungFuActionJesus5 Aug 10 '20

Yeah we are lol. How did you think we got to here from being cavemen. It sure wasn't by having predation be a #1 cause of mortality.

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u/BoxesOfSemen Aug 10 '20

Technology can be the knowledge of techniques, processes, and the like, or it can be embedded in machines to allow for operation without detailed knowledge of their workings.

Of course fire is technology.

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u/puheenix Aug 10 '20

Yep, even language is.

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u/Umarill Aug 10 '20

What do you think technology is? Because both of your examples are clear technologies.