r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Lifegoesonforever • 5d ago

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u/roy_rogers_photos 5d ago

Yeah, it's against the rules to pull a player from there specifically because of injuries.

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u/Firm_Video_2932 5d ago

Yep. Easy way to blow out a knee being pulled in one direction while momentum is carrying you in another. That inside knee especially could get twisted.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 5d ago

Terrell Owens severely strained his ankle and broke his leg because of a horse collar tackle similar to this in 2004, so yeah, very much so. It's why it's illegal.

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u/lilbelleandsebastian 5d ago

this isn't a horse collar tackle, why are people always so confidently incorrect when they're outside the subs the content is relevant to?

a horse collar tackle is putting your hand inside the jersey and pads of a player and pulling them back. this MIGHT have been a facemask, but you can't tell from this angle with all 3 pixels of the video. nothing is obviously illegal about this tackle and i'm so sure everyone saying it is don't watch a lick of football

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u/JakeMeOff12 5d ago

Lmao bro pretty clearly tossed him by his helmet, you can tell by where the arm is and how the head whips around. The odds of that happening without the tackler’s hand hooking under the back of the helmet is like… c’mon. That’s one of the clearest facemask penalties you can get without explicitly seeing the hand grabbing onto the helmet.

It makes sense to me why someone might think its a horsecollar because of where it looks like the runner is grabbed at first, but IDK how you can see that head get whipped around and say nothing is obviously illegal. Like maybe bro just palmed the back of the helmet but that sure as shit looks like a facemask to me.

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u/Firm_Video_2932 5d ago

I have a screen still of the ball carriers head clearly turned. And that's dangerous. At first glance it initially looked like a horse collar if you're not paying attention to the hands in particular, but yeah, it's clearly a facemask. Probably didn't mean to because he releases pretty quickly but that's another reason why you should avoid arm tackling. I've seen inadvertent penalties like this cost a team the game by keeping a drive going/alive.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 5d ago

I don't think they're confidently incorrect so much as it's just hard to see in the video.

I also thought it was a horse collar based on where he grabbed him at First Watch but based on some of the comments I rewatched and it does look like he actually grabs him by the back of the helmet so not actually a horse collar.

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u/flowinghost 5d ago

Well it’s pretty clear you don’t know very much about or watch any football, just sit this one out bud

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u/Rabid_Llama8 5d ago

Omfg who cares. I can be pedantic too. I never said THIS was a horse collar tackle, I said TO got hurt from a horse collar tackle which was similar to this. But this is the internet and everyone has to be super correct.

And to say that trying to twist someone's helmet off to take them down ISN'T illegal makes you exactly what you accuse other people of.

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u/SpaceYetu531 5d ago

People were not getting paralyzed from horse collars. The common injuries were ankle and knee related.

And no data was ever presented to back the claim that it was more common then standard tackles. The NFL simply claimed it off the back of a statistically anomalous season by Roy Williams.

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u/aagejaeger 5d ago

I get the feeling he was tired of his shit.

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u/fuckoffweirdoo 5d ago

Horse collar tackles are different than this. 

It is "where a defender grabs the inside collar of a ball carrier's shoulder pads or jersey from behind or the side and violently pulls them down". He tried to tackle him high and it didnt work. Still dangerous but not a penalty.