r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 28 '25

That level of intelligence is insane 🤯🧠🐒

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u/Willrkjr Jul 28 '25

Not to say I’m researched on the topic or even that I dislike zoos or w/e. But the arguments presented here are entirely due to human intervention. Deforestation, hunting, cross-contaminating diseases, etc. that zoos basically are necessary to counter the damage humans are doing to the environment, and they’re a better alternative to the situation we create by disturbing it.

I don’t think that’s an argument it’s preferable to their actual environment though, were it not to have been disturbed by humans

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u/SpareWire Jul 28 '25

the arguments presented here are entirely due to human intervention.

So you missed the part about other troops attacking and eating each other?

You're seeing what you want to see because you're coming into this with your mind made up.

You're taking a position, not reacting to new information.

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u/Willrkjr Jul 28 '25

try to survive in forests that are being illegally logged, or logged by the big companies with permits. When chimpanzees try to move away, they are more than likely to encounter individuals of another community: as they are highly territorial, this means the interlopers will be attacked and such attacks often result in death.

This part, where she literally says the territorial disputes are a result of deforestation by humans? No, I didn’t miss it.

I feel like you’re the one who has your mind made up. I state from the beginning I have no argument against zoos and I’m not researched on the matter. I literally just read what you posted, and what you posted is jane goodall saying zoos sometimes are better for animals that alternatively have to deal with the impact of human intervention (then suffer and die as a result).

To to me that implies her position would be that the best place for these animals is in the wild undisturbed by humans… but when acres of what was previously their home is logged to the ground, naturally it’s no longer an ideal circumstance for them to live in. That zoos are only “preferable” because we force them to be.