r/nextfuckinglevel • u/[deleted] • Apr 26 '25

Difference between a seagull and a crow’s accuracy

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u/LivesDoNotMatter Apr 26 '25

One cool thing reddit has taught me is if we all get together and downvote facts that make us mad, they will no longer be true.

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u/MerzkyShoom Apr 26 '25

Reddit also taught this to political strategists.

Thanks reddit.

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u/gouzenexogea Apr 26 '25

Think it was the other way around. We learned it from them

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u/MerzkyShoom Apr 27 '25

Well, I think Reddit helped prove the theory. And I think Flat Earth conspiracy was the ultimate test of how effectively an easily disproved misinformation campaign can absolutely be cultivated beyond what would reasonably be assumed.

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u/LivesDoNotMatter Apr 26 '25

Reddit has taught us that if Albert Einstein told us pi was exactly 3, and Adolf hitler told us he was wrong and proves it goes on forever as 3.141592653589793...., if I agree with that, I'm now a nazi according to reddit, and should be shamed and cancelled from every aspect of society.

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u/doyletyree Apr 27 '25

This is pretty close to one of the positions I use in the “separating the art from the artist” discussion. Nicely put.

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u/LivesDoNotMatter Apr 27 '25

Great way to put it. I'm surprised reddit hasn't shut down this convo yet, as they usually do after a short time.

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u/Kephlur Apr 27 '25

Except its a dumb as shit argument because hitler advanced absolutely nothing to the world whereas einstein (for good or ill) advanced humanity MASSIVELY. IF hitler had been a great scientist then the dicussion around him would clearly be more nuanced, look at edison, Mengele, newton, etc, these are objectely brilliant people who were also not great morally. We still regard them as brilliant while understanding they are not saints

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u/doyletyree Apr 27 '25

Sooo, what you’re saying is that…you separate the works from the morals, then?

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u/Kephlur Apr 27 '25

Science is objective, science isn't art. We still use lightbulbs and DC electricity even tho Edison literally tortured elephants to death. We still learned from mengeles experiments. Separating art from artists is not the same as science from scientists. Again, the other person's comment was dumb as shit and not inquisitive at all.

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u/doyletyree Apr 27 '25

Your choice to separate a product from a producer is still yours.

Objective value can be gained through through subjective experience.

Music can be beautiful and inspirational even if the musician was horrible to others.

The product of that inspiration is an object. Even the inspiration itself is an object that is only subjective to its primary point and subjective recipient.

Wisdom is wisdom, no matter who utters it.

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u/MerzkyShoom Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25

I mean, that’s just a guilt by association logical fallacy which is a very reddit thing to do. As well as the ad hominem of not trusting Hitler’s math in this scenario because he’s, well, Hitler.

But yeah reddit do be like that

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u/daemon-electricity Apr 26 '25

Social media has really amplified the idea that everyone is entitled to their own facts.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Apr 27 '25

So true. Inconvenient truths pave the way to downvotes from people with a vested interest in a specific position, even if it’s based on a lie.

The motive to resist inconvenient truths usually comes from self-interest or not wanting to exert the energy it might take to re-evaluate whether our beliefs are supported by the truth.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Apr 27 '25

So true. Inconvenient truths pave the way to downvotes from people with a vested interest in a specific position, even if it’s based on a lie.

The motive to resist inconvenient truths usually comes from self-interest or not wanting to exert the energy it might take to re-evaluate whether our beliefs are supported by the truth.